NoTail Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 If ever there was an argument to accelerate the roll out of the vaccine this is it. I see we have started to show a degree of importance, I would suggest we put a rocket into the program now. We should be planning on opening our borders with confidence. Not talking about another lock down. At some stage the government will have to open everything and essentially tell us all to just get on with it. Those who have chosen to increase their risk of death or serious issues because they dont like the vaccine will simply have to live with their choice. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Banker said: Some places been visited now being released https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/isle-of-play-visitor-identified-by-contact-tracing-team/ Not released by the government though. Same as all the others that have stated they’ve closed as a result of the tracing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, manxst said: Not released by the government though. Same as all the others that have stated they’ve closed as a result of the tracing. Isle of play reopening next week, only shutting today because of weather, only other business shutting that I’ve heard is elements salon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Banker said: Isle of play reopening next week, only shutting today because of weather, only other business shutting that I’ve heard is elements salon No, it is closing because of the positive case AND the weather. What about Dohle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 This is the problem, Government fail to realise that not being honest, open and timely leads to speculation, which is potentially damaging and probably not helpful. Anyone who watched the press conference must have taken the view that they were desperately trying to avoid straight answers, Quayle has clearly been programmed with the word protocols ! Politicians play politics, viruses don't! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Gladys said: What about Dohle? Didn't they announce they were just closed yesterday for a deep clean and openn/ again today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floors4u Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, Banker said: Unless there’s unknown community spread then Howie should just follow his plans which say no lockdown or restrictions required. The situation with steam packet is the same with all transport staff everywhere , it’s impossible for them to quarantine when finishing work. Imagine all the truckers &?ferry workers in uk stopping work every time they return from continent France - rife with covid UK - rife with covid Is the penny dropping yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, asitis said: Whatever the Steam Packet were doing, it is amazing that Government thought they were doing something else! That is it in a nutshell. That's the sorts of problems that Arms Length Organisations creates. Can't be the Governments fault though. Oh No Sir, we are only strategic !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gladys said: No, it is closing because of the positive case AND the weather. What about Dohle? Ok someone told me they were reopening next week, let’s see what happens, Dohle are not shut but staff working from home yesterday and thought they were returning. wouldnt expect Tesco to shut if they had a visit either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I see we are now going to vaccinate sea and air crew as a matter of urgency. I don't pretend to understand the medical stuff behind this, but at a time when we have inoculated dentists, opticians and associated care occupations and numerous others here, where we don't have rampant community transmission, and presumably people are not coming into contact with the virus daily we omitted to inoculate the very people who probably were / are at most risk of being exposed to it? I realise inoculation is not the answer to the maidens prayer but this seems a glaring anomaly to me! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the blue Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, NoTail said: If ever there was an argument to accelerate the roll out of the vaccine this is it. I see we have started to show a degree of importance, I would suggest we put a rocket into the program now. We should be planning on opening our borders with confidence. Not talking about another lock down. At some stage the government will have to open everything and essentially tell us all to just get on with it. Those who have chosen to increase their risk of death or serious issues because they dont like the vaccine will simply have to live with their choice. Absolutely this, given the apparent increased transmissibility of the current UK variant I have less confidence that we will be able to stop events like this happening again over the next few months. Bouncing in and out of 'circuit breaker' lockdowns (if that is what happens starting this weekend), is not the right way to go. Much as I absolutely love the normality of the elimination strategy, maybe now is the time to start planning our integration into the world, and begin priming the scared members of our society that Brigadoon is just a story and the reality is that we need to accept Covid back onto our shores in a measured and controlled way. Vaccines and increased knowledge re. treatments and the virus's behaviour should allow this to happen. Maybe limited hospital capacity coupled to the politicians eyeing the looming elections will keep us in limbo for some time yet, but I hope not. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, floors4u said: France - rife with covid UK - rife with covid Is the penny dropping yet? WTF are you on about, are you saying all essential transport staff across Iom & uk should quarantine after every shift away from the families? Whole country would grind to a halt, idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Didn't they announce they were just closed yesterday for a deep clean and openn/ again today? Yes they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Banker said: WTF are you on about, are you saying all essential transport staff across Iom & uk should quarantine after every shift away from the families? Whole country would grind to a halt, idiot If we are following the UK lead, sea farers are exempt from isolating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floors4u Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, asitis said: I see we are now going to vaccinate sea and air crew as a matter of urgency. I don't pretend to understand the medical stuff behind this, but at a time when we have inoculated dentists, opticians and associated care occupations and numerous others here, where we don't have rampant community transmission, and presumably people are not coming into contact with the virus daily we omitted to inoculate the very people who probably were / are at most risk of being exposed to it? I realise inoculation is not the answer to the maidens prayer but this seems a glaring anomaly to me! Along with the bus/taxi drivers who collect from the airport and boat terminal , then go about their business as usual 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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