Barlow Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Banker said: Have a look at 3 Fm , news & politics etc , my opinion is mine so not sure what your question is By indicating 'what people are saying on Facebook' is what I meant. But OK...I see what you mean. I have just remembered again why I rarely, if ever, comment on Facebook. Good for a laugh to read through though, but not in a funny hah hah way. Rationale, reason and intellect has a very different dynamic there to Manx Forums. Covid-19 and pandemics are way beyond the wide and capable intellect needed to understand it, let alone offer meaningful comment or act on it. Howie and Ashie don't have that intellect. As it happens, and as many would agree, the results of that happened to be a good thing. Edited February 26, 2021 by Barlow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Banker said: A lot of the positives have caught it whilst in isolation from the original few cases , lots of teenagers, 4 at rock school, several at gymnastics etc I assume that you meant that they have developed it in isolation after catching it at these activities, maybe passing it on to siblings and/or parents while co-isolating. The original cases would presumably (we don't have the genomics to confirm) been via the Steam Packet employee(s) and family. This sort of outbreak is very dangerous because of the number of potential contacts schoolkids have. The newer variants of the virus seem to be spreading a lot this way (though we may have got better looking for them there). What may have saved the day here is it being half-term with the number of potential contact reduced. But at the moment we don't really know if the day has been saved. We're assuming that those now testing positive have been isolating since the first bout of contact tracing, but being "already in self-isolation. They will continue to self-isolate with their households and further tests will be offered" could mean they have only recently entered it. Communications have been consistently second rate because they have been aimed not at informing the public fully and trusting them, but at saying the bare minimum and expecting that people will be reassured. Again the contrast with New Zealand where information is released fully as soon as it is known is very marked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: Yes of course that small minority who would never dream of dropping into a coffee bar for a latte after delivering a vehicle to a customer working in Athol street. Silly me. Now now. Never underestimate how patronising and detached some people can be. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Er, yeah ok. Seems quite a bizarre time for the open up and ride out the storm brigade to present with such a concerted effort. Actually no, no it doesn't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 53 minutes ago, CowMan said: I thought I might try here as an alternative... First time on MF then is it? 🙄 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 hours ago, The Phantom said: I probably would too if I could. Ask him and he might let you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I assume that you meant that they have developed it in isolation after catching it at these activities, maybe passing it on to siblings and/or parents while co-isolating. The original cases would presumably (we don't have the genomics to confirm) been via the Steam Packet employee(s) and family. This sort of outbreak is very dangerous because of the number of potential contacts schoolkids have. The newer variants of the virus seem to be spreading a lot this way (though we may have got better looking for them there). What may have saved the day here is it being half-term with the number of potential contact reduced. But at the moment we don't really know if the day has been saved. We're assuming that those now testing positive have been isolating since the first bout of contact tracing, but being "already in self-isolation. They will continue to self-isolate with their households and further tests will be offered" could mean they have only recently entered it. Communications have been consistently second rate because they have been aimed not at informing the public fully and trusting them, but at saying the bare minimum and expecting that people will be reassured. Again the contrast with New Zealand where information is released fully as soon as it is known is very marked. The communication had actually been fine. It's reassuring that the communication strategy doesn't simply bow down to the Karens going mental on Facebook etc. Most logical and rational people understand the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Er, yeah ok. Seems quite a bizarre time for the open up and ride out the storm brigade to present with such a concerted effort. Actually no, no it doesn't More people are finally understanding that a calm and controlled approach is the way forward. Those who want to hide in a lead lined bunker can. Those who can take a pragmatic view can get about their daily business. A fair proportion of the truly vulnerable have been vaccinated or at least had the first jab. This is the future so we might as well get used to it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Not sure why you are trying to convince me. I have no say in the matter. Maybe try writing to your mhk? I don't want lockdown. Your route seems to me to be a more likely way of landing us in one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, quilp said: First time on MF then is it? 🙄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 36 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: This is the future so we might as well get used to it. Nope. This is definitely the present. In the future this will seem like the good old days. That's what always happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowMan Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, pongo said: In the future this will seem like the good old days. I was hoping to feel a bit less depressed from some of the last bizarre sweeping doomsday statements people have made but that’s really knocked any potential for cheering me up for a good week. When do you expect Armageddon to commence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Documentary on the latest developments on Covid, BBC2, 9pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 U.K. downgraded Covid threat level to 4 from 5 given the dramatic reductions in cases, hospitals getting on top of things & the vax rollout. Get your jollies booked, it’s not on, it’s ON ON! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, CowMan said: I was hoping to feel a bit less depressed from some of the last bizarre sweeping doomsday statements people have made but that’s really knocked any potential for cheering me up for a good week. When do you expect Armageddon to commence? I have to say that I don't find it all depressing; frustrating, irritating and feeling a bit of a mushroom, yes, but not depressing. We have got used to being in control of nature but she has the upper hand and, in a way, it is a salutary lesson. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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