Happier diner Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, The Old Git said: I’ve seen any numbers of leisure boats out at sea. Are you suggesting they have to isolate when they come back in? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, jaymann said: Not the genomics though. No. But you didnt say that nor is that the data they are waiting for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Trench Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I might’ve missed it. What are surveillance purposes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipsqueak Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Len Trench said: I might’ve missed it. What are surveillance purposes? they look like dolphins with cameras. ? 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: This is the situation where we need to know how the unknown cases caught it. Because if they did, with no known link to the cluster, chances are other people did too. If we can identify who in fact gave it to them, we can identify the trail, and thus where it may have branched off from there. How on earth are you going to do that without testing the entire island? Sequencing (which is what I assume you are getting at) doesn't magically fill in missing links. More chance of finding that missing link by testing everyone an app pinged up for the week before the new case as a close contact than through sequencing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Happier diner said: No. But you didnt say that nor is that the data they are waiting for. Your Old Jedi mind tricks won't work here. These aren't the test your looking for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmmm Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, jaymann said: I trust literally nothing anyone tells me. But the suggestion I've just been told is that we should expect implementation of measures - not a lockdown - in the coming 24-48hrs. Not full on panic stations, but the implementation of social distancing and advised mask wearing for a period of time. IF that does happy, I'll be very thrilled to see COMIN have some cajones. Rather extraordinary that we have cases in the community, albeit in low numbers at the moment, and there are no measures whatsoever in place. It is almost like we have forgot how insidious the virus can be and the lag factor. If the vaccination programme was more advanced it would be more understandable. The bottom line here will be continued community spread/hospital admissions. Hope COMIN and Howie are not in a state of confirmation bias as this unfolds, yesterdays close contacts of two community cases being not positive so everything is ok was somewhat bizarre. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx Yeller Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: How on earth are you going to do that without testing the entire island? Sequencing (which is what I assume you are getting at) doesn't magically fill in missing links. More chance of finding that missing link by testing everyone an app pinged up for the week before the new case as a close contact than through sequencing https://www.manxforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/65760-iom-covid-removing-restrictions/&do=findComment&comment=1494856 It might not help, but my previous post shows 2 ways it might and it won't hinder so why wouldn't you use it? Edited March 1, 2021 by Manx Yeller Addition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: I’m glad we have such an expert here to tell us why social distancing doesn’t work, and how every country must’ve therefore gotten it wrong. It doesn't work in practical terms. How can you run a business? And genuinely keep people apart? Did you go to the supermarket during lockdowns with social distancing,? Basically non existent. Step out of your bunker now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipsqueak Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Sequencing (which is what I assume you are getting at) doesn't magically fill in missing links. speaking of missing links has howie said anything yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: Maybe they are classified as Aircrew Are you suggesting that all private planes and boats travel without passengers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I see Ashie just threw Public Health under the bus on the SPCo. Nothing to do with Government. Which is odd because I thought the directives and exemptions were law? It really would be farcical if it weren't for the consequences for most of us. The sooner this is over and these clowns are gone the better for everyone. And CoMin meeting again this evening. Also testing anyone including staff who were at Close Leece and Mona Lisa last Thursday but not Tesco apparently. Don't even need to be symptomatic, calling it surveillance testing. 2 new cases, one linked to an existing cluster, so is that still SPCo one or did the two unconnected ones that caused the weekend non-lockdown lockdown form a new cluster themselves? Or is it maybe 3. How many clusters before it is in the community? Kinda reminds you of a peat fire on moorland... just when you think it's out it pops up somewhere else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: I see Ashie just threw Public Health under the bus on the SPCo. Nothing to do with Government. Which is odd because I thought the directives and exemptions were law? It really would be farcical if it weren't for the consequences for most of us. The sooner this is over and these clowns are gone the better for everyone. And CoMin meeting again this evening. Also testing anyone including staff who were at Close Leece and Mona Lisa last Thursday but not Tesco apparently. Don't even need to be symptomatic, calling it surveillance testing. 2 new cases, one linked to an existing cluster, so is that still SPCo one or did the two unconnected ones that caused the weekend non-lockdown lockdown form a new cluster themselves? Or is it maybe 3. How many clusters before it is in the community? Kinda reminds you of a peat fire on moorland... just when you think it's out it pops up somewhere else. Well if they offered to test everyone in Tesco during those times there would be so many it would inundate testing for a while 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: Did you go to the supermarket during lockdowns with social distancing,? Basically non existent. Au contraire, social distancing was very evident in the first lockdown, not so much on the circuit breaker, but everyone was wearing masks, unless you were a victimised covid denier. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Just now, Banker said: Well if they offered to test everyone in Tesco during those times there would be so many it would inundate testing for a while Agreed so why bother at all? Admit it's out of the bag and do what they need to do. Otherwise before you know it, we'll be filling Nobles. Look what happened in the UK with this new variant, just after Xmas it rocketed very fast. The 2nd wave here peaked at 53 cases 14 days after NY lockdown began. We are now at 50 cases and no lockdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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