Banker Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 30 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Peel.....Laxey. Very worryingly, it seems to be spreading North towards Ramsey... Also Douglas & ballasalla schools , think only Ramsey left out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 hours ago, horatiotheturd said: Now we are all stuffed. 300 cases by the weekend I reckon Careful now. @CowManwill call you doom laden and depressing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxchester Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Peel.....Laxey. Very worryingly, it seems to be spreading North towards Ramsey... Bar Logo could be our version of The Bridge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 hours ago, horatiotheturd said: Obviously an app would tell us who was at high risk and who wasn't. We don't have one In your post you have outlined very well the shortcomings of any app. It bases its risk assessment largely on the distance between individuals (based on bluetooth signal strength) and the amount of time, as well as when the contact occurred relative to the start time of the symptoms of the infected case. Many of the people on the bus would be identified as high risk. Certainly you would if your work colleague had it, in the situation you describe. A text telling someone to isolate without telling them where they have had the high risk contact will often be ignored. If people on the Isle of Man want to use a contact tracing app, there is nothing to stop them downloading and using the NHS app. You may need to put in a UK postcode rather than an IoM one, but the only bit of information that loses you is what the risk level is in your area, which most people already know. Of course you need to convince enough people to download it to make it effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, Banker said: Also Douglas & ballasalla schools , think only Ramsey left out!! Do you now accept that there should have been a lockdown weeks ago? And that the ferry crews should either isolate or be UK based? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, pongo said: Do you now accept that there should have been a lockdown weeks ago? And that the ferry crews should either isolate or be UK based? I’d argue there are two separate issues at play. The original source of the outbreak should have no bearing on the mitigation of it. You act based on the spread of it. I’d agree that there was a lot of feeling things were moving too slowly. With regards to the Steam Packet, we’d had no problems even when it was at 50k cases a day in the UK. Steam Packet staff are now vaccinated and tested regularly, so this shouldn’t happen again. It’s just unfortunate this is what it took to get to that point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, pongo said: Do you now accept that there should have been a lockdown weeks ago? And that the ferry crews should either isolate or be UK based? No! But he should have done something at weekend for say 7 days Report from ITV , Howie won’t like Pride before fall https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2021-03-03/behind-the-borders-why-has-the-isle-of-man-had-to-lock-down-again?fbclid=IwAR0va8QXdRd5pNjUPw-36g68k2CkTMIDInPUFjyW_jkRXubq7aevmbQM7rI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Steam Packet staff are now vaccinated and tested regularly, so this shouldn’t happen again. It’s just unfortunate this is what it took to get to that point. There seems to be no scientific agreement on whether vaccination prevents people from spreading the virus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 13 hours ago, Numbnuts said: You can catch something but thats a whole different issue ! Is multiple personality disorder catchy? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cheesypeas Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, pongo said: There seems to be no scientific agreement on whether vaccination prevents people from spreading the virus. https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/vaccines-and-immunization-what-is-vaccination When a person gets vaccinated against a disease, their risk of infection is also reduced – so they’re also less likely to transmit the virus or bacteria to others. As more people in a community get vaccinated, fewer people remain vulnerable, and there is less possibility for an infected person to pass the pathogen on to another person. Lowering the possibility for a pathogen to circulate in the community protects those who cannot be vaccinated (due to health conditions, like allergies, or their age) from the disease targeted by the vaccine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 German homestays are not without humour... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 10 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: Whatever you want to criticize the IOM Government for you can’t criticize it for open and honest, or lack of communication. Five briefings in five days, with media questions if I’m correct. As regards friendly communication, when faced with the likes of an aggressive Moulton and to a lesser extent Glover, the CM does well to keep his temper in check. Not sure I could. Yes I agree. Ashford hit the ball out of the park with his answer about vaccine wastage. He put it to bed. So why did PM? 1. Complain he wanted more questions then, 2. Waste his question asking about vaccine wastage when it had already been asked and answered once, comprehensively. So us peeps had to listen to Ashford regurgitate the comprehensive answer again....thread to the needle. PM is ok sometimes. Last night he was a total muppet. It seems he thinks he is under pressure to do a Paxman everytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Happier diner said: It seems he thinks he is under pressure to do a Paxman everytime. PM is more Paxo than Paxman. Howie pretty much told him to get stuffed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, pongo said: There seems to be no scientific agreement on whether vaccination prevents people from spreading the virus. Initially, that was the case, because the evidence didn’t yet exist. The hypothesis did, but you don’t want to tell people based on just a hypothesis and assuring them it should work that way. As time goes on, the evidence points to a significant reduction. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-results-public-health-england-b921793.html 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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