Happier diner Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Just now, AcousticallyChallenged said: The genomics actually linked a number of the cases back to the original SPCo cases, and proved that they were from direct transmission from the rest of the cluster. It was discussed in one of the recent press conferences. Of course, knowing that a week on is of absolute 0 use. As you yourself say, the horse has bolted by then. But my point is the horse had already bolted before the person was even tested. So even if you had genomic sequence results within a minute of the PCR result. Its still a couple of days too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, pongo said: The virus doesn't care whether the pathways are known or unknown. We face the current situation because there was not a lockdown as soon as it was known that any infected person had been out spreading it. As soon as we had the unknown cases, that was when testing should've been ramped up in a big way. As Dr G said, surveillance testing of young people should've been stepped up, given that was where the majority were emerging. Community cases meant we were missing cases. The genomics tells you how far you need to look beyond that to find the new infections, as well as why you are missing cases. Contact tracing, like anything, is not a perfect process, but you want to make damned sure you get it as right as you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: The genomics actually linked a number of the cases back to the original SPCo cases, and proved that they were from direct transmission from the rest of the cluster. It was discussed in one of the recent press conferences. Of course, knowing that a week on is of absolute 0 use. As you yourself say, the horse has bolted by then. It makes no difference though. All that mattered was that it was Covid and being spread locally. And obviously assume it to be the Kent version or worse. That was the main information required. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 New cases today? I am going for 83 and mass panic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: As soon as we had the unknown cases, that was when testing should've been ramped up in a big way. It should have made no difference whether they were known or unknown cases. Both are equally spready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 minute ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: The genomics actually linked a number of the cases back to the original SPCo cases, and proved that they were from direct transmission from the rest of the cluster. It was discussed in one of the recent press conferences. Of course, knowing that a week on is of absolute 0 use. As you yourself say, the horse has bolted by then. If we had known it a day later we would have ignored it as part of the cluster and gone on our merry way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: New cases today? I am going for 83 and mass panic Yep must be bad if the overnight figures caused a change of mind on schools and construction. *Checks bog roll stash* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: If we had known it a day later we would have ignored it as part of the cluster and gone on our merry way. Or we would have had concrete evidence that we were missing links, not only giving us the information we needed to try and close those gaps, but also, identify the situation was already out of hand. Why intentionally limit the data you have? Edited March 5, 2021 by AcousticallyChallenged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: New cases today? I am going for 83 and mass panic I am going for zero. Only because it would bamboozle everyone. Bit of a long shot. Maybe another foinhaven 5000:1 shot. Seriously tough - 46. Stab in the dark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germann Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: New cases today? I am going for 83 and mass panic I'm going for 130. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 48 minutes ago, manxst said: I think ALL your arguments and points of view for the past few months have been total bxxxxxxcks. You backed the wrong horse very publicly and loudly in the importance of genomics race, and are now doubling down in stupidity and ignorance. Sounds exactly like what CoMin are doing at the moment. Hmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 86 if they're telling the truth, 41 if they're fudging it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowMan Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Just now, germann said: I'm going for 130. Any advance on 130? It’s not depressing enough for this forum really. Anyone care to throw in a really big and depressing number that might give some forum members a real psychological wobble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, germann said: I'm going for 130. That's Mondays number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: New cases today? I am going for 83 and mass panic I don’t think you’ll be far off, there was over 200 awaiting results yesterday, hundreds more would have been tested this morning, with results landing around 3ish, if they’ve actually tested to capacity (800) then it could easily be 100+ It depends when they take the schnappshot from but assuming it’s 4pm-4pm, I’ll go for a nice safe bet of 74, that’s double yesterday’s and would follow the Kent variant pattern as seen elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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