Banker Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Nobody seems to have asked yet why for the more transmissible strain, we had the least strict lockdown of all. Far more people working, far more children in hub schools. There’s no children in any hub schools not even critical workers children 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barlow said: Dr Allinson does not sound well. Someone needs to check on him. Fairplay to CoMin & Co, these guys have probably had little sleep and rest all lockdown and a shedload of worry. Working for the best interests of the Island. Allinson looked dreadful at the media briefing yesterday. Very full of a bad cold at least. One of the disadvantages of working from home is that people sometimes continue working when really they should take to their beds and rest. Education is a complete mess at the moment, even without Covid, and he has had to take over a Department that was dysfunctional even by Manx standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) Sdo does this below suggest family visits this month or next? To me it does but I might simply be giving them credit for eventually engaging common sense when they have done nothing of the sort. " Will enable us to pivot from elimination to mitigation Preparation - little change in the measure we have in place while cases here and in the UK fall. Expect unknowns such as vaccine delivery to consist. Hopefully we can prepare to welcome friends and family to our shores. Any outbreak now will need a strong response. Probably take up March to April. Transition - significant changes Changes to border policy, but not full removal Should be well into vaccine programme May - all adults should have been offered first dose July - should have done all second doses for vulnerable people Assess our levels of defence and adjust position accordingly Release, will have better understanding of how the vaccine is working Whole world will have a new plan for how to continue Plan for winter and removing any remaining border restrictions Border is our biggest defence and biggest threat Can only ditch restrictions when it is prudent to do so Where we can, we will seek external advice about whether people think it is prudent to do so from academic and public health thinking Hopefully September we should have vaccinated all over 18s by then Can’t be sure what will happen when We need to be ready to put measures in place if required While we can’t say when, we can say is how we will approach this" Edited March 9, 2021 by horatiotheturd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Just now, Roger Mexico said: Allinson looked dreadful at the media briefing yesterday. Very full of a bad cold at least. One of the disadvantages of working from home is that people sometimes continue working when really they should take to their beds and rest. Education is a complete mess at the moment, even without Covid, and he has had to take over a Department that was dysfunctional even by Manx standards. Yes left a real mess by Cregeen who is now keeping head down & only commenting on local issues like Ballasalla housing etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: There is no FOM / MGP (I heard it’s gone) Not heard that myself. Let's see what occurs 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptar Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Boo Gay'n said: @36 posts - an interesting turn of phrase. I didn't say it here of course, I said it many times to the dog, in person(dog). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Banker said: There’s no children in any hub schools not even critical workers children For them I actually suspect the lack of childminders will be a bigger problem than the lack of hub schools. On the whole essential workers will have always made arrangement for coping when school isn't available in holidays or because they work non-standard hours (as essential workers tend to). No childminders and restrictions on who can look after children will be the real difficulties. It looks very much as if the mess here was caused by the Cabinet Office. After the January lockdown clearly all the businesses had been complaining that they were essential and the list grew to include practically everyone. They also decided to let students attend their usual schools. So Allinson effectively ended up having to announce that the schools were closed but anyone who wanted to send their children there still could and they would be open. Not a brilliant idea in an outbreak where transmission was being driven by schoolchildren. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowMan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Transition - significant changes Changes to border policy, but not full removal Should be well into vaccine programme May - all adults should have been offered first dose July - should have done all second doses for vulnerable people Assess our levels of defence and adjust position accordingly Release, will have better understanding of how the vaccine is working Whole world will have a new plan for how to continue Plan for winter and removing any remaining border restrictions Border is our biggest defence and biggest threat Can only ditch restrictions when it is prudent to do so Where we can, we will seek external advice about whether people think it is prudent to do so from academic and public health thinking Hopefully September we should have vaccinated all over 18s by then Can’t be sure what will happen when There is absolutely no way that they can or will stick to that vaccination time table on current performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: There is no FOM / MGP (I heard it’s gone) Probably an announcement this week, government want it to happen but the practicalities and risks are getting difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowMan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: There is no FOM / MGP (I heard it’s gone) They’ll be gutted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Good summary of some of stick Howie has been getting https://gef.im/gef/tynwald09mar?fbclid=IwAR30LyHs-Lgo5AZ8VoRNPCfF5SHMFdtETokCqEio06o8DH6UFtQO-_fWqpc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowMan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Banker said: Good summary of some of stick Howie has been getting https://gef.im/gef/tynwald09mar?fbclid=IwAR30LyHs-Lgo5AZ8VoRNPCfF5SHMFdtETokCqEio06o8DH6UFtQO-_fWqpc “Mr Callister - Can you look again at support bubbles and can you give reassurance around rules on walking dogs? Especially those in isolation” FFS .. getting the important issues in! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Sdo does this below suggest family visits this month or next? To me it does but I might simply be giving them credit for eventually engaging common sense when they have done nothing of the sort. " Will enable us to pivot from elimination to mitigation Preparation - little change in the measure we have in place while cases here and in the UK fall. Expect unknowns such as vaccine delivery to consist. Hopefully we can prepare to welcome friends and family to our shores. Any outbreak now will need a strong response. Probably take up March to April. Transition - significant changes Changes to border policy, but not full removal Should be well into vaccine programme May - all adults should have been offered first dose July - should have done all second doses for vulnerable people Assess our levels of defence and adjust position accordingly Release, will have better understanding of how the vaccine is working Whole world will have a new plan for how to continue Plan for winter and removing any remaining border restrictions Border is our biggest defence and biggest threat Can only ditch restrictions when it is prudent to do so Where we can, we will seek external advice about whether people think it is prudent to do so from academic and public health thinking Hopefully September we should have vaccinated all over 18s by then Can’t be sure what will happen when We need to be ready to put measures in place if required While we can’t say when, we can say is how we will approach this" They need to start preparing now for more COVID jabs starting October, November latest, along with the others (flu, pneumonia). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Howard seems very tetchy this morning, well done the MHK's who have woken up and are asking questions . When Howard brushes his teeth he brushes Harmers too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 So, I had my first injection on Monday at Chester street. All went well and was very organised. I've just received a letter inviting me to apply for an appointment for my first injection ! Errm? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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