CallMeCurious Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 minute ago, TheTeapot said: It's from the Department for Enterprise What gave it away? No style. No substance. No chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Cambon said: Highest daily new case numbers at peak was over70,000. Equivalent of over 100 here I believe the honourable gentleman was referring to the figures for March, 2021 - the 7 day moving average is about 6000 or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, John Wright said: Rather depends on what the Manx meaning of self isolation is. But as you must isolate if you are tracked and traced - until you’ve had the test, and if you develop symptoms and ring 111 you are directed to isolate until tested - every one who tests positive was in isolation at the time of testing. Except 111 aren’t doing that, I know of two people due to receive jabs this week who contacted 111 after being concerned they’ve possibly contracted the virus, they’ve had symptoms more commonly associated with the Kent strain (severe headache/muscle ache) and they’ve been told that not only do they not require testing but they’re fine to get their vaccine this week? They didn’t actually associate their symptoms with Covid until they heard Paul Moulton at the press briefing describing someone else testing positive with similar symptoms, they now wished they had lied about their symptoms in order to be certain they don’t have it. Having downloaded the consent form they feel that ‘fever like symptoms ’ is clearly open to interpretation, they feel a headache/muscle ache is what they most associate with fever, rather than just outright temperature. They’ll be telling however will listen at the vaccination hub, so it will be interesting to see what happens. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowMan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: They didn’t actually associate their symptoms with Covid until they heard Paul Moulton at the press briefing describing someone else testing positive with similar symptoms Triggered hypochondriacs then? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 39 minutes ago, pongo said: A lot of that travel is never coming back. Staff aren't even going to be going to the office so often from now on. Most business travel is hugely ineffective and inefficient. At huge cost - both financially and to the environment. Companies are going to increasingly need to justify travel from now on. That's a big part of this reset. Inter company travel perhaps. But the reality is a lot of companies on the Isle of Man need to go out and get that business. The likes of Trust and Corporate Service Providers are a very good example. The biggest ones are now all private equity backed and business simply doesn't just fall into the Isle of Man. It's naive to think that is the case. Anyone who doesn't understand the importance of business development related travel simply is either trolling or has an IT, compliance or back Office background. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, CowMan said: Triggered hypochondriacs then? Yes, I suppose you could say that, they didn’t associate their symptoms with Covid up until that point, they were happy enough taking paracetamol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 At the vax centre, they ask if you have covid symptoms. Don't say how that will affect your uptake though. If you have, they presumable ask further questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: I have no idea what you do or who you mix with but I don't know anyone under 70 in the real world who thinks like you do It's the elderly who still live in a world of old fashioned business travel - but a lot of that is never coming back - it's going to be considered basically wasteful and largely pointless. And a lot of office space has gone for good too. The IOM is great place for service sector companies to be based - tech, finance, gaming, legal, accountancy, payroll etc. Good internet. Work from home. The customer is anywhere. But let's be honest: Not such a great place to be based if you need and old fashioned handshake somewhere off the M25 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: Inter company travel perhaps. But the reality is a lot of companies on the Isle of Man need to go out and get that business. The likes of Trust and Corporate Service Providers are a very good example. The biggest ones are now all private equity backed and business simply doesn't just fall into the Isle of Man. It's naive to think that is the case. Anyone who doesn't understand the importance of business development related travel simply is either trolling or has an IT, compliance or back Office background. Or works somewhere where your "customers" just land in your lap and have no alternative to go elsewhere regardless of how you perform? Anyone think of any examples of such places? Places where you could literally be awful at your job, let down all your customers, spend all their money, make decisions that would get you fired anywhere else and yet still get a guaranteed payrise every year and a gold standard pension? Edited March 9, 2021 by horatiotheturd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: Inter company travel perhaps. But the reality is a lot of companies on the Isle of Man need to go out and get that business. The likes of Trust and Corporate Service Providers are a very good example. The biggest ones are now all private equity backed and business simply doesn't just fall into the Isle of Man. It's naive to think that is the case. Anyone who doesn't understand the importance of business development related travel simply is either trolling or has an IT, compliance or back Office background. You'll probably find that the customer would rather you stopped hassling them for a face-to-face. "Relationship managers" *are the worst for that. * aka ****ing sales people basically Edited March 9, 2021 by pongo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Just now, pongo said: You'll probably find that the customer would rather you stopped hassling them for a face-to-face. Relationship managers are the worst for that. You literally have zero idea. None. Scary stuff, but that must come from being a wealthy pensioner who I suspect has relied on others to provide their salary. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminal Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, pongo said: You'll probably find that the customer would rather you stopped hassling them for a face-to-face. "Relationship managers" *are the worst for that. * aka ****ing sales people basically And ‘Account Directors’. Fuck off the lot of ya’ll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: You literally have zero idea. None. Scary stuff, but that must come from being a wealthy pensioner who I suspect has relied on others to provide their salary. Pongo 20 years ago, somewhere near the prospect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Roxanne said: What is so difficult about telling people that headaches and muscle aches are a symptom of the Kent variant. Yes, I heard Hetty waffling about different jurisdictions using different criteria (in between greasing up PM) but it was all waffle. Just report the facts FFS! I had a headache and sore legs today. Could have been a load of things that caused them. Am I supposed to get a covid test and isolate everytime I get those things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: There is a nice question for the next briefing. "Why are people with appointments being turned away and told to come back another day once they get there? How does this impact the ramping up and the public confidence in the whole process. Considering you've had nearly a year to plan for all of this?" Particularly when Ashford claimed yesterday that they didn't want to re-book appointments that people had already been given and that was why they had been keeping all those doses in reserve. However it's quite clear what is actually going on here. They have decided that they are going to do 1000 vaccinations a day for at least five days (implying longer). So everything has been directed towards doing that. - all that matters is getting that number. The AZ vaccine is easier and quicker to administer and Chester Street will be easier for most people to get to, so they are using up their stocks of AZ there (even though it's set up for Pfizer) so as to make the numbers. This is all about Quayle and Ashford going "Look at us - aren't we good!" rather than what is best for the people of the Island. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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