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Again first 2/3rds of the press conference is answer social media questions and clarifying shit that should have been clear in the first place.

Hetty saying we are coming off the peak at pace in one breath but them bandying around it taking at least 5 weeks in another.

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8 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said:

Depends.

If loads of us have it, and people are going into hospital for other reasons there will be people in hospital "with" covid.  They really need to clarify like Gibralter do

I suspect they would tell us if infection was only incidental- there has been the odd time in the past that they have with the odd case.  If they don't mention it I think you can probably reckon that all 12 are there primarily because of Covid - either from the effects or because it's made other things they suffer from much worse.

The truth is that most people who test positive for Covid are not asymptotic, we know this from Jersey's arrival testing over the Summer.  About half were showing symptoms at any time, but those without would also include some who developed those later.

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16 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said:

Depends.

If loads of us have it, and people are going into hospital for other reasons there will be people in hospital "with" covid.  They really need to clarify like Gibralter do

they just commented on this 

 

  • Full ward at Noble's Hospital for Covid patients.
  • 12 people are in hospital.
  • Hospital still has capacity says Health Minister.
  • A mix of people in hospital - people aren't necessarily in hospital as a direct result of Covid-19.
  • Health Minister says he is not concerned about capacity at this time.
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What slightly concerns me is that yes, the number of cases is coming down but so is the number of tests each day. It's still around 13-14% in terms of positive tests so the reduction in cases could be said to be purely due to the reduction in tests. Whether the reduction in tests is proof that it's under control and we are past the peak is another matter! Think the figures are:

6th - 499 cases - 71 cases

7th - 621 tests - 81 cases

8th - 760 tests - 108 cases

9th - 648 tests - 87 cases

10th - 559 tests - 75 cases

11th - 512 tests - 65 cases

 

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6 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

I suspect they would tell us if infection was only incidental- there has been the odd time in the past that they have with the odd case.  If they don't mention it I think you can probably reckon that all 12 are there primarily because of Covid - either from the effects or because it's made other things they suffer from much worse.

The truth is that most people who test positive for Covid are not asymptotic, we know this from Jersey's arrival testing over the Summer.  About half were showing symptoms at any time, but those without would also include some who developed those later.

David just proved this post wrong as you were typing it. 

They need to be clear.  12 scares people and he has just said they aren't all because of covid

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4 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said:

David just basically just proved this post wrong as you were typing it. 

They need to be clear.  12 scares people and he has just said they aren't all because of covid

12 scares people into be-fucking-having themselves and obeying the current rules. the sooner that happens the sooner the hounds are released

 

at least if they are saying 21+ days, it means more and more people will have been vaccinated by the time the lockdown is lifted

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