Boris Johnson Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: As I said in my first post, a crowded pavement. 45 new cases, 11 unexplained and 4 new hospital admissions in one day would suggest that it's increasingly likely? It is more likely to be spreading in factories and manufacturing businesses. They are open as well as offices if you cant work from home and some cant. Close contact indoors is where the danger is, not outside, that's why it went away in the summer and came back big time as the winter came in and people spent more time indoors. Edited March 16, 2021 by Boris Johnson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: It is more likely to be spreading in factories and manufacturing businesses. They are open as well as offices if you cant work from home and some cant. Close contact indoors is where the danger is, not outside, that's why it went away in the summer and came back big time as the winter came in and people spent more time indoors. Er...we are now coming out of winter and we currently have the worst ongoing spread to date. Plus the 11 unexplained today. The guard has been allowed to slip and unless it is addressed the spread will continue. If it does, there is a good chance that we will be in lockdown for Easter. It would be better to observe things more stringently now in order to be in with a chance of easing things for the Easter period. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: The guard has been allowed to slip and unless it is addressed the spread will continue. If it does, there is a good chance that we will be in lockdown for Easter. It would be better to observe things more stringently now in order to be in with a chance of easing things for the Easter period. Easter is less than 21 days away (2nd April). Reality is it's already screwed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomadic Raptor Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I don’t think the plan was ever really to be out of lock down by Easter easier to keep us all locked up until after...maybe set sights for first may bank holiday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 47 minutes ago, winnie said: What about transmission via the food coverings? I believe the virus can survive quite a while on a surface. The customer will open the bag, touch the food and straight into the mouth. Just the same as the chippy really though. Remember it cant spread by ingestion but you could theoretically have it on your hands then pick you nose or rub your eyes. It has to get into your respiratory system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Er...we are now coming out of winter and we currently have the worst ongoing spread to date. Plus the 11 unexplained today. The guard has been allowed to slip and unless it is addressed the spread will continue. If it does, there is a good chance that we will be in lockdown for Easter. It would be better to observe things more stringently now in order to be in with a chance of easing things for the Easter period. If the vaccine program was ramped up to maximum (7 days a week 08:00 to 20:00) for how ever long the stocks last then that would go some way to mitigating the risk. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Roxanne said: And a thousand people a day are travelling to enclosed spaces meeting with vaccinators who are meeting with others and then going home to their families. That alone is concerning. I'm pretty sure the vaccine centres are low risk. Not totally risk free. The vaccinanaters are only near you for a short time. You are both masked. They have proper surgical masks, they are vaccinated so all in all it's better to take the risk and get jabbed. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: As I said in my first post, a crowded pavement. In Ramsey on Station Road/Bowring Road? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rhumsaa said: In Ramsey on Station Road/Bowring Road? Yes, by the Millennium Stone. Past the carpark entrance and up towards Ramsey Bakery Edited March 16, 2021 by Non-Believer extra bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, madmanxpilot said: the elimination strategy will likely never reach it's goal again. Pure fantasy to start with. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Easter is less than 21 days away (2nd April). Reality is it's already screwed. The genie is not only out of the bottle, he has left the building and is on his way up the road. (Bowring Rd, by the sound of it) Zero chance of elimination now, we were lucky before, not this time. Vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate, repeat Edited March 16, 2021 by Boris Johnson 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Just the same as the chippy really though. Remember it cant spread by ingestion but you could theoretically have it on your hands then pick you nose or rub your eyes. It has to get into your respiratory system. Absolutely. Just got to clean hands regularly, be sensible and narrow the odds of catching it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) No one knows just how this is spreading. The contact tracers should have a good idea of what is going on, certainly with all the data they have. I am expecting Dr Ewart to provide us with some definite knowledge . All she seems to be doing is agreeing with Howie and Ashie. And regurgitating stuff that mostly I can find out from the TV or in the newspapers. And I think it is common sense, for example, that metaphorical bloke nursing pint for three hours in t'pub on his todd is less risk than the karaoke kid. (Or is he?) By know the data we have should be giving us a handle. Where are all these people catching and spreading the virus and most importantly how? Tell us Hetty, you should know by now. ETA: the needs to be a competent data analyst onboard with the government Edited March 16, 2021 by Barlow 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: The genie is not only out of the bottle, he has left the building and is on his way up the road. (Bowring Rd, by the sound of it) Zero chance of elimination now, we were lucky before, not this time. Vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate, repeat Whilst the target of another period of local elimination would be nice, the reality is that it's going to be a tough ask this time. Especially are folks don't seem to be really trying his time. If we don't get local elimination before all the O50s are vaccinated there will be little point trying anymore. We have to fall in step with the rest of the world at some stage so that would be a sensible time to do it (Assuming UK and European rates are similar to ours by then). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Annoymouse said: Still got cash handling and people without contactless cards too, That's why there's sanitiser in the shops. Do on way in and way out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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