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26 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

There's definitely a case for keeping those postcodes under a stricter lockdown while the rest of us enjoy a relaxation in policy. 

There's only four postcodes with double digits or less - the East and South of the island should be sealed off. 😁😂 We can deal with marine freight in Peel and/or Ramsey, and land planes in Jurby. 

1) 362 IM2

2) 213 IM4

3) 160 IM3

4) 151 IM9 ... This is where today's unexplained case originates. 

5) 114 IM1

6)  46 IM8

7)  42 IM5

8)  35 IM7

9)   8  IM6

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11 minutes ago, Banker said:

Howard is torturing him at this moment to make him confess.  He's reading him out all his briefing statements.

But this shows up the whole nonsense of only counting linked cases.  Even if you claim you can work out where the guy got it from (and you can't know for certain without genomics for all known cases - and sometimes not even then) whether you know the source or not, he would still have infected the same number of people.  Nowhere else dismisses cases as unimportant once they know the source .  It's the same magical thinking that has infected the government's actions from the start and possibly led to the current lockdown.

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20 minutes ago, Banker said:

They are playing with fire. If the person concerned hasn't been in isolation, even if they link it to another case, there is nothing to say he hasn't infected anyone else. This whole outbreak started with one case in Feb. If they relax things when there are still cases in the community, why wouldn't it happen again?

If they were to abandon their elimination strategy, that would be different

 

Edited to add: Roger beat me to it

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11 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Howard is torturing him at this moment to make him confess.  He's reading him out all his briefing statements.

But this shows up the whole nonsense of only counting linked cases.  Even if you claim you can work out where the guy got it from (and you can't know for certain without genomics for all known cases - and sometimes not even then) whether you know the source or not, he would still have infected the same number of people.  Nowhere else dismisses cases as unimportant once they know the source .  It's the same magical thinking that has infected the government's actions from the start and possibly led to the current lockdown.

Manx problems for Manx solutions?

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29 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

Latest UK figures out (last 7 days):

Testing positive, down 8%

Deaths, down 35%

Hospital admissions, down 22%

Plummeting.

In Scotland the positive results is at less than 3% has been for nearly 2 weeks now. There are 23 people across the whole of scotland in icu. Everything has plummeted yet they are not going to be allowed out for another month which by coincidence is a week or so before the election. 

 

Simply put when it comes to covid all reason and logic has gone.

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37 minutes ago, Banker said:

The one today is a male 20-24 symptomatic living in IM9 , probably been visiting someone in isolation!!

I've been meaning to mention this for a while now. The Symptomatic Overview section of the dashboard is pretty much useless really. 

If they were doing more (any) surveillance/random testing, it would show a truer picture of asymptomatic vs symptomatic cases. As it is, apart from testing close contacts of known positives*, they will not test you unless you have some of the symptoms on their wholly inadequate symptom list. They'll be missing asymptomatic cases left, right and centre. Is it any wonder, really, that we're still having unlinked cases popping up? 

Anyway, it's no huge surprise that the symptomatic cases outnumber the asymptomatic cases. Don't know why they bother. Would be more informative if the gave a bit more information on hospital cases. 

It would be even more informative if they were doing surveillance testing alongside genomics. Bah humdrug. 

 

*household member or close workmate.

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By unpopular demand I thought I'd revisit the postcode analysis by population I did about 3 weeks ago.  The number of cases since 15 Feb per 10,000 population are:

IM1/2 (Douglas)  176

IM3 (Onchan) 175

IM4 (Central) 197

IM5 (Peel)  60

IM6 (Michael) 50

IM7 (North) 60

IM8 (Ramsey) 59

IM9 (South)  107

Despite an increase in all areas the pattern remains unaltered, with the 'Southside' hit much harder than the 'Northside' by a factor of about 3, though the actual South is only about 2 times more.  Central (mostly Middle) is hit hardest of all.  As Gladys pointed out last time this is probably a good indication of spread via schools.

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32 minutes ago, Newbie said:

They are playing with fire. If the person concerned hasn't been in isolation, even if they link it to another case, there is nothing to say he hasn't infected anyone else.

Nahh, there's a lockdown. It should be relatively straightforward to trace any contacts. Shouldn't it?

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2 minutes ago, Zarley said:

I've been meaning to mention this for a while now. The Symptomatic Overview section of the dashboard is pretty much useless really. 

If they were doing more (any) surveillance/random testing, it would show a truer picture of asymptomatic vs symptomatic cases. As it is, apart from testing close contacts of known positives*, they will not test you unless you have some of the symptoms on their wholly inadequate symptom list. They'll be missing asymptomatic cases left, right and centre. Is it any wonder, really, that we're still having unlinked cases popping up? 

Anyway, it's no huge surprise that the symptomatic cases outnumber the asymptomatic cases. Don't know why they bother. Would be more informative if the gave a bit more information on hospital cases. 

It would be even more informative if they were doing surveillance testing alongside genomics. Bah humdrug. 

 

*household member or close workmate.

We should also be told the covid positive persons favorite colour and pop band for the full effect.

That would be about as much use as the stuff they are feeding us without genomics.

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