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[The Voice of Reason]

19 minutes ago, slinkydevil said:

Fucks sake the the Government have acted like the Mafia over this. It's really sad reading. 

All else apart in all this Dr Glover acknowledges in lettergate there was such a letter. Whether Minister Ashford was wise in disclosing its contents is another matter. But it seems to put to bed the accusation that it never existed.

Edited April 1, 2021 by The Voice of Reason

[Utah 01]

11 minutes ago, Gladys said:

in the loss of good governance? 

Gladys, you are slipping. That's 2 groundless assumptions you've made about the parish council in as many days.

[Ham_N_Eggs]

1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said:

All else apart in all this Dr Glover acknowledges in lettergate there was such a letter. Whether Minter Ashford was wise in disclosing its contents is another matter. But it seems to put to bed the accusation that it never existed.

That's a weird take on this. Ignore everything else that was said but focus on a letter she never denied existed but one she can never truly know did exist because if it did Ashford shredded it.

[Gladys]

 

6 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

All else apart in all this Dr Glover acknowledges in lettergate there was such a letter. Whether Minter Ashford was wise in disclosing its contents is another matter. But it seems to put to bed the accusation that it never existed.

You take comfort from that?  There was a letter, no one doubted it, but who was it from and why?

This all brings to a head the need to get the Abbotswood and SP investigations done and published pretty quickly.  Let's get all the shit out there and put those on the receiving end out of their misery.  Either they were culpable or not, but let's deal with it. 

Edited April 1, 2021 by Gladys
Tidy up.

[Sheldon]

5 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Whether Minter Ashford was wise...

Just a typo, I'm sure, but seldom was one ever more timely or appropriate.

[TheTeapot]

6 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

All else apart in all this Dr Glover acknowledges in lettergate there was such a letter. Whether Minister Ashford was wise in disclosing its contents is another matter. But it seems to put to bed the accusation that it never existed.

Even you can't defend the government over this, not if you're honest with yourself.

[Non-Believer]

1 hour ago, finlo said:

The usual shills are earily quiet!

Cos they're all in a meeting with Quayle and Ashford (still).....

[The Voice of Reason]

Just now, Gladys said:

We also need to see some results of other 'investigations ', 

You take comfort from that?  There was a letter, no one doubted it, but who was it from and why?

This all brings to a head the need to get the Abbotswood and SP investigations done and published pretty quickly.  Let's get all the shit out there and put those on the receiving end out of their misery.  Either they were culpable or not, but let's deal with it. 

There were many who doubted there was a letter. Many said it was an invention. You must recall that.

It was said to be from a disgruntled colleague/ associate who was pissed off that Dr G was claiming all credit and ignoring the input of others.

The whole transcript revolves around “she said”/ “they said” and until concrete evidence has been produced to prove one way or the other I would be very wary of jumping to conclusions 

 

[Pipsqueak]

9 minutes ago, Gladys said:

 

You take comfort from that?  There was a letter, no one doubted it, but who was it from and why?

This all brings to a head the need to get the Abbotswood and SP investigations done and published pretty quickly.  Let's get all the shit out there and put those on the receiving end out of their misery.  Either they were culpable or not, but let's deal with it. 

i'd go with not , but government are well short of scapegoats at the moment.

[The Voice of Reason]

8 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

[The Voice of Reason]

13 minutes ago, Sheldon said:

Just a typo, I'm sure, but seldom was one ever more timely or appropriate.

Yep just a typo but why would mistyping Minter for Minister be timely or appropriate? 
I don’t understand 

[Non-Believer]

Didn't Ashford produce this "letter" at a press conference (before conveniently "shredding" it)?

It was he who brought "the letter" into play  not Dr. Glover.

[The Voice of Reason]

19 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

That's a weird take on this. Ignore everything else that was said but focus on a letter she never denied existed but one she can never truly know did exist because if it did Ashford shredded it.

I said “all else apart” ie ignoring everything else? Do you not understand?

[Sheldon]

3 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Yep just a typo but why would mistyping Minter for Minister be timely or appropriate? 
I don’t understand 

A Scots lass at work says it all the time, but it's perhaps not as common as I'd thought.

[Gladys]

3 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

There were many who doubted there was a letter. Many said it was an invention. You must recall that.

It was said to be from a disgruntled colleague/ associate who was pissed off that Dr G was claiming all credit and ignoring the input of others.

The whole transcript revolves around “she said”/ “they said” and until concrete evidence has been produced to prove one way or the other I would be very wary of jumping to conclusions 

 

It was said to be from a health worker, iirc, but the implication it was from someone working with her. Yes, many said it was an invention, but there is a semantic argument as to whether the piece of paper existed and whether that piece of paper was actually what it was represented to be. 

Is there a transcript already?  From listening to it, there was also direct reference to correspondence and to public pronouncements, such as her employment status.  There are also emails apparently.