quilp Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gladys said: You take comfort from that? There was a letter, no one doubted it... There was a piece of paper, that's all. And the question has to be asked- who else was privy to it and who would testify for instance under oath, to its existence? Otherwise that piece of paper and what was allegedly written on it is meaningless in a legal sense. Any jury under those circumstances would be instructed to ignore it. Dr.G said that once the alleged letter was made public she received began to receive emails from her then colleagues alluding to their shock that such a 'letter' existed. Edited April 1, 2021 by quilp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny F Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Ashford's status has plummeted in my opinion, Quayle is either misinformed or a total knob head, Hettie is commenting on things she knows nothing about, but most sinister of all is Rizwan Khan. Keep fighting the bastards Rachael. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, daisy said: What is your agenda... ? Defending the indefensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Amazingly, in the midst of a Global Health Pandemic our Government still finds the time to make a complete and utter Horlicks of something, and create a rumbling scandal to boot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny F Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 I've listened to the whole investigation, questions need to be asked. Ashford seems to have been lying to us all. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 What is staggering is the refusal to accept any kind of assistance in our armoury and then the seemingly aggressive character assassination that followed. WTF is going on? Who has made these decisions and who has turned the Nelsonian eye to it all? As I said, it is all indicative of a deeply corrupt system of governance. By corrupt I mean rotten, festering and incapable of resurrection. 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Have any MHK's or wannabe MHK's made any comments as a result of today's hearing ? It's not like its important or anything.... Or are they more bothered about dog shit, moving bank holidays and similar bollocks 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: All else apart in all this Dr Glover acknowledges in lettergate there was such a letter. Whether Minister Ashford was wise in disclosing its contents is another matter. But it seems to put to bed the accusation that it never existed. Well, she thinks it was genuine, but has no direct knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lezayre Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 I would think there will be a good few people looking in the situations vacant column shortly and this includes civil servants as well as polititions. After listening to the whole of Hansard whilst still thinking that the government has handled the whole pandemic in a satisfactory matter I am now left thinking how much professional and academic expertise have we missed out on. This needs to change very quickly. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Don't know about anyone else but I was impressed by the Speaker's outpouring of thanks and appreciation to Dr.G at the end of the proceedings. Something else of significance, and further proof of institutional sour grapes was the removal of Dr.G's nomination as a significant Manx person and the request that she take down her twitter post in which she'd reproduced the congratulatory nomination text. Sickening stuff... Fair-do's to Robertshaw for his questions and a mention to Hooper also for his. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Declan said: Well, she thinks it was genuine, but has no direct knowledge. Does she? Where did she say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, lezayre said: I would think there will be a good few people looking in the situations vacant column shortly and this includes civil servants as well as polititions. After listening to the whole of Hansard whilst still thinking that the government has handled the whole pandemic in a satisfactory matter I am now left thinking how much professional and academic expertise have we missed out on. This needs to change very quickly. Much as I agree with your sentiments, I doubt there will be a huge wave of resignations. Many of these people have got to where they are based on an unfailing belief in their own inability. That does not make a good candidate to fall on their sword. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 This whole thing smacks of a toxic power culture that should have been put to bed years ago. It has to change. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, quilp said: Don't know about anyone else but I was impressed by the Speaker's outpouring of thanks and appreciation to Dr.G at the end of the proceedings. Something else of significance, and further proof of institutional sour grapes was the removal of Dr.G's nomination as a significant Manx person and the request that she take down her twitter post in which she'd reproduced the congratulatory nomination text. Sickening stuff... Fair-do's to Robertshaw for his questions and a mention to Hooper also for his. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, lezayre said: I would think there will be a good few people looking in the situations vacant column shortly and this includes civil servants as well as polititions. After listening to the whole of Hansard whilst still thinking that the government has handled the whole pandemic in a satisfactory matter I am now left thinking how much professional and academic expertise have we missed out on. This needs to change very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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