TheTeapot Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Can we take it that you are an expert in this field and do understand the benefits of rapid genomic testing are? I guess I should sign off with “ Thanks Dr Glover” but I’m not that crass as my detractors! I don't need to be an expert, I'm not the one carrying it out. I don't need to be a professional footballer to know that playing a brilliant midfielder in midfield instead of at centre back makes your whole team play better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 4 hours ago, NewResident said: I've been reading this topic, and I just wanted to post a point of view here. We were in the process of relocating to the IOM early 2020 (had bought property etc) but got "stuck" elsewhere when covid struck last year. We've now finally just come back over from England and are in our 2 week quarantine period. I'm sure there must have been mistakes in the government's reactions to the pandemic - but this is definitely true of all governments everywhere. Our own experience of our dealings with the IOM government institutions/local government/post office while we've been in this difficult position over the last year has been very good. Considerably better than our dealings with the equivalent organisations in England. Just a few small examples: we had a post forward on for our IOM home. I emailed the post office a week before we were coming over to ask them to stop forwarding and received an email reply within 2 hours to confirm. The government's RR scheme worked very efficiently; the landing pass instructions were easy to follow. We phoned 111 to organise testing and the phone was picked up within seconds - I've waited for pick up with the equivalent UK 111 for nearly an hour recently. The testing was scheduled and very well organised when we went. We had a phone call within hours of landing to confirm that we were in quarantine and to ask if we had enough food etc. As I say I'm sure that some bad decisions have been made, and I don't know the ins and outs of those, but generally we find the IOM government and health organisations to be very efficiently run; considerably more efficient than the equivalent in England! Welcome home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 29 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: Eh? What are you going on about? Are Liverpool not providing genomics then? Of a sort and after some delay, yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Each government in each jurisdiction must make their own assessment as to the best course of action. How many times has the IOM been chastised for following UK policy? What’s so good about NZ? “What might be right for you may not be right for some. It takes Diff’rent strokes to move the world.” What is so bad about having a home grown genomics testing and analysing facility that turns around results in hours? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gladys said: What is so bad about having a home grown genomics testing and analysing facility that turns around results in hours? If only it were that simple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Just now, The Voice of Reason said: If only it were that simple Do tell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: What’s so good about NZ? Reported Deaths /1M pop: New Zealand - 5 Isle of Man - 340 UK - 1,861 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Edited April 3, 2021 by code99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 First vaccine passports events coming https://news.sky.com/story/dates-revealed-for-uks-first-vaccine-passport-events-and-traffic-light-system-for-holidays-12265266 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: If only it were that simple C,mon Howie spill the beans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Banker said: UK Media speculation is that initially only vaccinated residents will be allowed into major sporting events, theatres etc similar to Israel whilst facing minimal restrictions when traveling, USA have just announced vaccinated people can now meet each other indoors and are now allowed travel with no quarantine, various European countries have announced they will allow vaccinated visitors without quarantine or testing, various cruise companies have announced they will only accept vaccinated passengers. Whenever Ashford or Quayle are asked about allowing vaccinated residents to travel without restrictions he goes to great lengths to say vaccinations don't stop you catching virus, spreading virus etc etc. What does Ashford & his advisors know about the benefits vaccinations give that all the other major world powers & their medical advisors don't know ??? Sorry Banker, but Europe doesn't know it's arse from its elbow. USA, have a central government with 50 different local governments making decisions. Basically, nobody there knows what they are doing. The vaccine is not a panacea, especially when given at 12 week dose intervals. USA are sticking to manufacturer recommended dosage, and are claiming 91% efficacy after 6 months. Niether the UK nor us will not be able to claim that. However, I just hope our (UK) strategy has some effect. Time will tell. The reality is, none of us are travelling on holiday anywhere further than the uk any time soon. Talking to family in Cyprus today, they are allowed to leave home for up to three hours, five times a week. They must send an email or text stating times, receive a "permission" reply, and comply. There are also curfews, 11pm-5am. Yes the pubs are open for outside service, but very quiet, obviously. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: I don't need to be an expert, I'm not the one carrying it out. I don't need to be a professional footballer to know that playing a brilliant midfielder in midfield instead of at centre back makes your whole team play better. And I don’t need to only hear one side of a reported exchange to come to a snap judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Just now, The Voice of Reason said: And I don’t need to only hear one side of a reported exchange to come to a snap judgment. no, you'd already made it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Gladys said: Do tell Edited April 3, 2021 by The Voice of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cambon said: The reality is, none of us are travelling on holiday anywhere further than the uk any time soon. Talking to family in Cyprus today, they are allowed to leave home for up to three hours, five times a week. They must send an email or text stating times, receive a "permission" reply, and comply. There are also curfews, 11pm-5am. Yes the pubs are open for outside service, but very quiet, obviously. That would work well here. What a simple way to do contact tracing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, Cambon said: Sorry Banker, but Europe doesn't know it's arse from its elbow. USA, have a central government with 50 different local governments making decisions. Basically, nobody there knows what they are doing. Banker needs to go to Europe, forever if necessary. Isle of Man may be shit but it's about the least shit of shit just now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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