Banker Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: You want vaccine passports? Don’t think there’s any alternative certainty for next 12 months if you wish to travel or attend major sporting or music events which I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Banker said: European countries will allow UK residents in once vaccinated as several have already announced, Iceland, Greece, Cyprus, Malta,Portugal, Croatia and Spain will follow soon. Problem will be who’s on green list with speculation most of Europe won’t be at start except Iceland, Gibraltar, also UAE from outside Problem is what you arrive to. Even if you get into Spain everything closes at 17.30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Happier diner said: You'll have to explain that one John. How does having genomic results enable you to end lock down sooner. Lockdown easing is when you have no cases for a incubation cycle. I understand that you might be able to make association between cases and therefore mark the cases no longer unexplained. I see that benefit. However surely the fact that they have been circulating in the community defeats that benefit as it means there is a strong chance that they will have passed it to someone else. You can never be sure they didn't until you get zero numbers again. In new Zealand they have only ever had to chase tiny infection trails. Even smaller than ours. Smaller than ours because they lock on one or two cases. Then they can trace and genome and link to their hearts content. How it works isn’t within my expertise. That it works as I’ve described is incontrovertible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, John Wright said: Problem is what you arrive to. Even if you get into Spain everything closes at 17.30 Sounds like Peel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Banker said: Don’t think there’s any alternative certainty for next 12 months if you wish to travel or attend major sporting or music events which I do. Just bend over and take it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Just now, John Wright said: Problem is what you arrive to. Even if you get into Spain everything closes at 17.30 Only certain areas, Madrid bars open until 10 , Andalusia which includes Malaga 10.30 pm Murcia now 8pm I think but I’m talking post 17/05 when most areas expect to be fully open, lots like Greece, Malta etc have said after 1st May vaccinated uk residents welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Banker said: Only certain areas, Madrid bars open until 10 , Andalusia which includes Malaga 10.30 pm Murcia now 8pm I think but I’m talking post 17/05 when most areas expect to be fully open, lots like Greece, Malta etc have said after 1st May vaccinated uk residents welcome. Spain is fully expecting to go backwards after Easter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Banker said: I’m talking post 17/05 when most areas expect to be fully open, lots like Greece, Malta etc have said after 1st May vaccinated uk residents welcome. I must be missing something, but who tf would want to go? And what tf would they go for? Pandemics hasn't stopped yet., 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Just now, Barlow said: I must be missing something, but who tf would want to go? And what tf would they go for? Pandemics hasn't stopped yet., You must live a sheltered life, millions will want to travel to warmer climate the same as they used to do , especially if the alternative is an extremely overpriced staycation in UK or Isle of Man in possibly freezing rain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Banker said: You must live a sheltered life, millions will want to travel to warmer climate the same as they used to do , especially if the alternative is an extremely overpriced staycation in UK or Isle of Man in possibly freezing rain! You forgot the wind! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 31 minutes ago, John Wright said: Smaller than ours because they lock on one or two cases. Then they can trace and genome and link to their hearts content. How it works isn’t within my expertise. That it works as I’ve described is incontrovertible. My understanding, albeit from study of the subject many years ago, is that you could demonstrate that it was not linked ( which is useful) but given we it had one index case, it couldn't tell you it was linked. That's because they all are. To make it an explained case you would have to prove a physical connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Just now, Happier diner said: My understanding, albeit from study of the subject many years ago, is that you could demonstrate that it was not linked ( which is useful) but given we it had one index case, it couldn't tell you it was linked. That's because they all are. To make it an explained case you would have to prove a physical connection. Which is why they lock first and trace and genomic afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Banker said: millions will want to travel to warmer climate the same as they used to do , especially if the alternative is an extremely overpriced staycation in UK or Isle of Man in possibly freezing rain! Sensible people won't pay for anything in advance. Given the uncertainty. If things do open up later in the year as you predict then that'll be great. It will be easy enough for people to book a flight (if there are any) and sort out their own accommodation (Airbnb, booking.com etc) based on the latest local information. Much more sensible than trying to guess in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Fuck me https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/director-of-public-health-reviewing-lateral-flow-tests/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Can someone please clarify the current rules? Are we still supposed to be staying at home other than for exercise and shopping? The meeting with up to 10 people seems to contradict this somehow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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