Gladys Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, trmpton said: I don't usually listen to keys or the committee meetings but have yesterday and today. Unless I missed it re the borders, have they actually given a single piece of definite information re dates, levels in the UK required, vaccine rollout percentages etc? All I have heard is "some people would open tomorrow" "some would stay closed for ever" "need to balance risk " blah blah blah. It is irrelevant what side or other wants, its down to data surely? Time to ditch the pandering to either extreme and do the right thing and that is to do a proper data driven risk assessment, acknowledging that nothing is risk free and the non-covid risks of lockdown and border closure have had very little assessment. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, John Wright said: Forget the Karen’s on FB. We are back to over egging departure figures. Millions! 'one of a team looking after the belongings of millions of people setting off on all kinds of journeys'. That's probably across the whole company's operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: Take them on next week, full pay until we open up next year. It’s how we roll. Baggage handlers are no longer employed by the Gov Airport. They are employed by Menzies the handling agent. No planes no work no pay probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said: I haven't looked on the website but I suspect that either an airline, a government body or a tourist body needs to add IOM to the list. I think TIMATIC is an opt-in application rather than by right. Could be wrong. The IOM and CI could be added into the text for UK as exemptions in the same way as they've added jobs that are exempt Whatever, the point is, there needs to be some sort of solution put in place. Otherwise someone is going to get stranded abroad Edited April 20, 2021 by snowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, Banker said: Obviously airport knows something, recruiting baggage handlers!! Already cry’s on Facebook for borders closed until end of year!! https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/recruitment-for-baggage-handlers-underway/ Good. Let those who wish to resume travelling do so. I would allow those who are vaccinated unrestricted travel. No isolation. No quarantine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Gladys said: That's probably across the whole company's operations. Just IOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 hours ago, snowman said: Seriously for a moment to answer the point. It needs information setup on the likes to TIMATIC which is used by airlines and agents. Here's a link to a publicly accessible TIMATIC site https://www.united.com/en/us/timatic?i=TIMATIC Most use a private access If I remember this TIMATIC information is cross linked in the airline booking system - visa requirements etc and to have your countries data in TIMATIC typically comes from a national carriers IATA membership which has quite a high annual fee. IOM no national carrier the IOM Gov would have to supply the info through IATA. Maybe a travel agent / former agent could confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Major Rushen said: If I remember this TIMATIC information is cross linked in the airline booking system - visa requirements etc and to have your countries data in TIMATIC typically comes from a national carriers IATA membership which has quite a high annual fee. IOM no national carrier the IOM Gov would have to supply the info through IATA. Maybe a travel agent / former agent could confirm. easyJet and other lcc's use timatic cited here with more information https://www.altexsoft.com/blog/timatic/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Shambles in keys again. Up for debate tomorrow but wasn't on order paper and MHKs haven't had a copy yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, trmpton said: Shambles in keys again. Up for debate tomorrow but wasn't on order paper and MHKs haven't had a copy yet Probably don’t want leaked to media, think they’ve been talking standing orders revisions for hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 4 hours ago, snowman said: Seriously for a moment to answer the point. It needs information setup on the likes to TIMATIC which is used by airlines and agents. Here's a link to a publicly accessible TIMATIC site https://www.united.com/en/us/timatic?i=TIMATIC Most use a private access Stick IOM as a destination in here. https://www.traveldoc.aero/results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 50 minutes ago, trmpton said: Shambles in keys again. Up for debate tomorrow but wasn't on order paper and MHKs haven't had a copy yet Tynwald, not Keys, this time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, cheesypeas said: Stick IOM as a destination in here. https://www.traveldoc.aero/results Yes, but as there are no direct flights from anywhere you have to set it as transit via LHR. The info about IOM or CI or Ireland as ultimate destination doesn’t appear. So it tells whoever uses it that they have to pay for the 2 test UK package. Here is UK NHS track & Test and Routing official advice. Im sorry for poor copy quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipsqueak Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, John Wright said: Yes, but as there are no direct flights from anywhere you have to set it as transit via LHR. The info about IOM or CI or Ireland as ultimate destination doesn’t appear. So it tells whoever uses it that they have to pay for the 2 test UK package. i keep reading about how cheap chartering aircraft is at the moment it may be financially viable to charter a direct flight to EGNS than pay out approaching 2k to stay in a hotel in the uk and waste almost 2 weeks of your life. do all incoming flights here have to originate in the british isles ? this would avoid any confusion at a UK airport as to whether you have to quarantine there first or not or whether you are allowed to continue your journey. Edited April 20, 2021 by Pipsqueak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Surely easyJet would consider this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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