Out of the blue Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The Ramsey school is being deep cleaned tonight and reopening tomorrow. Only one teacher and pupil are in isolation. Mitigation in action, it would appear so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Banker said: Well I have heard that someone visited a family member who was in isolation after returning from UK but obviously not 100% as whilst the person is reliable it’s third or fourth hand ! Oh it's certainly possible and some people have ended up in jail[1]. But I was making the point that people breaking isolation after travel doesn't seem to be a source of outbreaks so far - the New Year's Eve one was after they completed their period. Given the numbers involved, it's clear the vast majority have been careful so far, though it's possible that vaccination may lead some to be careless about contacts. [1] Admittedly usually the ones who spend a lot of time there anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Out of the blue said: The Ramsey school is being deep cleaned tonight and reopening tomorrow. Only one teacher and pupil are in isolation. Mitigation in action, it would appear so... Fairly sure it's the whole class.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, madmanxpilot said: Fairly sure it's the whole class.. Quayle said in Tynwald it was the whole class but then he's not the most reliable source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 ..and it probably took him 6 attempts at pronouncing ‘class’ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Quayle said in Tynwald it was the whole class but then he's not the most reliable source. Sadly one big thing thats come out of this last year or so is just how bad comms have been from Government. Considering they have a PR dept and goodness knows how many advisors , CS etc the constant mistakes and lack of clarity has been mind blowing really. No other word but incompetant and when you think how much the salaries are combined theres no excuse . 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Albert Tatlock said: They should shut the pubs in Ramsey tonight...and set up road blocks stopping anything coming out of Ramsey. It's the village of the damned I tells yer. Release the bread vans Douglas can’t survive without butties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, Zarley said: Well heck, I'm not even showing yet! Day 2 in the Rovers...I am. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 52 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: Seems unlikely given it wasn't really a requirement in lockdown. You are then effectively shutting down the hospitality businesses again. Masks and SD would have made little difference in lockdown as people weren't mingling - they are now. That Telegraph article posted earlier (and again here) says that people who have been vaccinated and have had time for their immunity to build (3 weeks it says) are more than 2,000 times less likely to be hospitalised with covid than those who haven't been jabbed. That data (if correct) has got to be hugely significant in how we deal with this. Case counts will matter less. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Sadly one big thing thats come out of this last year or so is just how bad comms have been from Government. Considering they have a PR dept and goodness knows how many advisors , CS etc the constant mistakes and lack of clarity has been mind blowing really. No other word but incompetant and when you think how much the salaries are combined theres no excuse . How many do we actually employ in government communications? The white and black propaganda departments certainly seem pretty well staffed. Maybe they forgot to employ someone to announce unspun news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The vaccine efficacy against hospitalisation report from another source: Data reveals impact of one vaccine dose on COVID infections A key government scientist has said that real-world data shows coronavirus vaccines are "working really well". Around 74,000 people were admitted to hospitals with the virus in recent months, but only 32 of them were vaccinated, official data from March shows. Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme Professor Calum Semple, one of the scientists advising the government on COVID-19, said the results are "very good news". Prof Semple said researchers looked "very carefully" at the hospital records of the 74,000 people in the data sample. They worked out that 43,000 had been admitted after vaccinations started. Within that number just under 2,000 people that had received a jab. They then looked at how many days there were between receiving the vaccine and the onset of their symptoms. Prof Semple said: "Most people admitted had caught their infection within a week on either side of vaccination and then there was a really sharp drop off in numbers, so that, after three weeks after being vaccinated, we could only count 32 people out of the 2,000 that had been vaccinated.” Now that is impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: Masks and SD would have made little difference in lockdown as people weren't mingling - they are now. That Telegraph article posted earlier (and again here) says that people who have been vaccinated and have had time for their immunity to build (3 weeks it says) are more than 2,000 times less likely to be hospitalised with covid than those who haven't been jabbed. That data (if correct) has got to be hugely significant in how we deal with this. Case counts will matter less. The question over the next few months will be how much of the rapid drop off in the UK's infection rate was the vaccinations and how much was down to the lockdown. I want it to be the former but I suspect the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Considering they have a PR dept That discovery could put you in line for a Nobel prize! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 After the first lockdown last year, hospitality opened with SD. Only lasted about two weeks, then SD was lifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: The question over the next few months will be how much of the rapid drop off in the UK's infection rate was the vaccinations and how much was down to the lockdown. I want it to be the former but I suspect the latter. If the vaccines do what they say on the tin, infection rates won't matter anywhere near as much soon. Since January, infections have fallen by 94%, hospitalisations by 96% and deaths by 99%. That's a significant change in the ratio of cases to hospitalisations and deaths. That can only be down to better healthcare - primarily vaccines. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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