Roger Mexico Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Newbie said: I think that the CDC is an organisation that can be taken seriously, and they do mention the limitations of the study within the discussion. The original link was to a press release highlighting the findings of the study, rather than to the study itself which was published online on the same day by the CDC in their weekly Morbidity and Mortality report. I wasn't being entirely serious about the CDC's dodginess, but it did surprise me that there was no link or reference to the paper's authors. I can't imagine a press release in the UK or Europe doing the same thing, if only tucked away at the end. Especially if the paper was being published simultaneously as you note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, John Wright said: We’d have been no further forward as delivery into arms depends on supply arriving. Don't buy it sorry. There were well over 10,000 in stock all the time they were still building the hubs. They are now happily running at 6-7 k in stock. The delivery thing was just an excuse. There were periods of time there were 15k in stock and they were only injecting for half the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 You continually carping on about it on an anonymous webforum will obviously help change the past. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, John Wright said: We’d have been no further forward as delivery into arms depends on supply arriving. Whist you are correct that there would not be a sea change in progress. We would still be technically ahead of where we are now as some people would have had 2 more weeks of protection. A small number admittedly, but we would be further ahead in the programme of protecting people. Bit silent on the Moderna vaccine aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, TerryFuchwit said: The people that really need vaccination have it. Twice. A shitload of people have at least one. Only about half of the extremely clinically vulnerable have had two doses. The change from 3-4 weeks to 10/12 came right in the middle of their cohort. The clinically vulnerable are all one dose. My second dose is 22 May. Clinically vulnerable will have theirs by mid July. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh G Rection Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) I hereby declare my intention to stand for Chief Minister of the Isle of Man to serve this wonderful, great, good-looking manx public, who never moan, or complain, or have bigoted opinions. The answer to this problem is so unbelievably simple, step up to the podium and announce... ALL WORKERS WHO ARE ABLE TO REASONABLY WORK FROM HOME MUST DO SO IN ORDER TO LIMIT ANY WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT TRANSMISSION HOSPITALITY BUSINESSES ARE HEREBY ENFORCED TO ENABLE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASK USE, BUT MAY STILL CONTINUE TO OFFER RELATIVELY NORMAL SERVICE. SOCIAL HOUSEHOLD MIXING IS SUITABLE AND PERMITTED, ALTHOUGH NUMBERS MIXING AT ANY ONE TIME INDOORS IS LIMITED TO 10 PERSONS. CLOSE DOUGLAS TOWN CENTRE ON THE WEEKENDS, SAVE PEOPLES NOSTRILS FROM DECAY AND LIVERS FROM DECOMPOSITION & POISON DUE TO OUR GLORIOUS ISLANDS AWFUL DEMOGRAPHIC AGED 18-50. WANNABE GANG$T3RZ. CONSTRUCTION MAY CONTINUE WORKING, ENFORCE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASK WEAR WHERE THIS IS PRACTICIBLE AND REASONABLE. THIS IS HOW YOU MITIGATE AND ENFORCE TO ENABLE A RELATIVELY "NORMAL" LIFESTYLE BUT STILL TAKE REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS WHERE POSSIBLE TO M I T I G A T E SPREAD. TO VOTE FOR ME AS YOUR NEXT RIGHT HONORABLE GENTLEMAN CHIEF MINISTER OF THE ISLE OF MAN MR HUGH G. RECTION JUST SEND £20 IN AN ENVELOPE TO P.O BOX 69 DOUGLAS ISLE OF MAN. IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. SO MANY WHINGING F*****S ON HERE TRYING TO BE ALL POMPOUS AND CLEVER. LETS GET BACK TO BASICS, BUTTER THE BREAD LOVINGLY, SLAP THE HAM ON THE BUTTERY YEAST AND GOBBLE THAT BUTTY. NO NEED FOR IT TO BE ANY MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT. AS ALWAYS THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, NOW FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE MEDIA AND FIRST UP TODAY IS PORK-... SORRY PAUL MOULTON FROM ISLE OF MAN TV, FASTER MIND PAUL GOOD AFTERNOON. PAUL MOULTON : G-G-G-G-GOOD AFTERNOON C-C-C-CHIEF MINISTER CAN YOU PLEASE E-E-E-E-ELABORATE ON THE CURRENT R-R-R-R-RESTRICTIONS YOU'VE BROUGHT IN TODAY.... WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE ALLOWED TO CARRY ON WORKING OUTDOORS AND WITH OTHERS AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO STAY INDOORS ON THIS WONDERFUL WEATHER AND WORK, S-S-S-S-S-SURELY THAT IS UNFAIR?? DURRRRRR DURR DUR DUR DURRRRRR WELL THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION PAUL AND WELL THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE, WE ARE TAKING MITIGATING STEPS AND WE PLAN TO REDUCE TRANSMISSION WHERE POSSIBLE BUT ALSO LET THE ISLAND CONTINUE TURNING THE COGS FOR THE BIG BOYS UP IN DANDARA HQ THAT SPANK OUR LATEX COVERED, BUTTERED UP ARSES IN RETURN FOR A BROWN ENVELOPE OR FIVE. I THINK IVE COVERED ALL ANGLES THERE PAUL AND NOTHING IS UP FOR INTERPRETATION? DOES MINISTER FOR PUBLIC HEALTH DOCTOR HENRYSKETTA EWWWW-ART HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? HENRYSKETTA EWWW-ART : NO THANK YOU CHIEF MINISTER RECTION I THINK YOU'VE ERECTED THAT POINT VERY CLEARLY, CONCISELY AND I HAVE NO FURTHER BOLLOCKS TO ADD. ....... So Manx Forums, have I made my viewpoint and mock-up press briefing for when I am undoubtedly elected Chief Minister HRH Hugh. G. Rection. Clear? Thanks and Fastyr Mie. Edited April 22, 2021 by Hugh G Rection 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Hospital visitors stopped shortly after restarting plus other measures https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/hospital-visiting-suspended-due-to-covid-cluster/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Banker said: Hospital visitors stopped shortly after restarting plus other measures https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/hospital-visiting-suspended-due-to-covid-cluster/ What are your plans when the borders open ? Travelling or trolling ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Just read an article about Indian "COVID Hell" Granted deaths will be under reported, but at the moment in hell, with limited and health care and poor vaccine roll out the death rate translates to roughly one death on the island - every two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, snowman said: What are your plans when the borders open ? Travelling or trolling ? WTF are you on about, this is a forum for information etc if not interested don’t read but stop trolling constantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Banker said: Hospital visitors stopped shortly after restarting plus other measures https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/hospital-visiting-suspended-due-to-covid-cluster/ Seems perfectly sensible doesn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Banker said: Hospital visitors stopped shortly after restarting plus other measures https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/hospital-visiting-suspended-due-to-covid-cluster/ Went for my neuro out patient clinic appointment this morning. Had to drop something off at Palatine surgery first. They had locked doors, ring doorbell, full PPE. Clinic at Newlands, shared facility and waiting area for anticoagulant clinic, epilepsy/neuro, diabetic/endocrine and autoimmune/rheumatology, nothing. And one visiting consultant ( over from Walton for 2 days, key worker ) stuck in with patients and student doctor in an unventilated windowless cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Hugh G Rection said: TO VOTE FOR ME AS YOUR NEXT RIGHT HONORABLE GENTLEMAN CHIEF MINISTER OF THE ISLE OF MAN MR HUGH G. RECTION JUST SEND £20 IN AN ENVELOPE TO P.O BOX 69 DOUGLAS ISLE OF MAN. IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. SO MANY WHINGING F*****S ON HERE TRYING TO BE ALL POMPOUS AND CLEVER. LETS GET BACK TO BASICS, BUTTER THE BREAD LOVINGLY, SLAP THE HAM ON THE BUTTERY YEAST AND GOBBLE THAT BUTTY. enjoyed this post Unsure if the Information Commissioner is the right person to bang £20 to "SLAP THE HAM ON THE BUTTERY YEAST AND GOBBLE THAT BUTTY" is possibly the best phrase I've read on MF for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, Banker said: Hospital visitors stopped shortly after restarting plus other measures https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/hospital-visiting-suspended-due-to-covid-cluster/ We're not locking down but the health services are operating in the same manner as they did in lockdown due to there being a small number of cases. Well...... if we're moving to living with it then surely this is going to be the way the healthcare services operate going forward? because if we're not eliminating then we will have covid cases in the community on an ongoing basis? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4652009 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Hugh G Rection said: I hereby declare my intention to stand for Chief Minister of the Isle of Man to serve this wonderful, great, good-looking manx public, who never moan, or complain, or have bigoted opinions. The answer to this problem is so unbelievably simple, step up to the podium and announce... ALL WORKERS WHO ARE ABLE TO REASONABLY WORK FROM HOME MUST DO SO IN ORDER TO LIMIT ANY WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT TRANSMISSION HOSPITALITY BUSINESSES ARE HEREBY ENFORCED TO ENABLE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASK USE, BUT MAY STILL CONTINUE TO OFFER RELATIVELY NORMAL SERVICE. SOCIAL HOUSEHOLD MIXING IS SUITABLE AND PERMITTED, ALTHOUGH NUMBERS MIXING AT ANY ONE TIME INDOORS IS LIMITED TO 10 PERSONS. CLOSE DOUGLAS TOWN CENTRE ON THE WEEKENDS, SAVE PEOPLES NOSTRILS FROM DECAY AND LIVERS FROM DECOMPOSITION & POISON DUE TO OUR GLORIOUS ISLANDS AWFUL DEMOGRAPHIC AGED 18-50. WANNABE GANG$T3RZ. CONSTRUCTION MAY CONTINUE WORKING, ENFORCE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASK WEAR WHERE THIS IS PRACTICIBLE AND REASONABLE. THIS IS HOW YOU MITIGATE AND ENFORCE TO ENABLE A RELATIVELY "NORMAL" LIFESTYLE BUT STILL TAKE REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS WHERE POSSIBLE TO M I T I G A T E SPREAD. TO VOTE FOR ME AS YOUR NEXT RIGHT HONORABLE GENTLEMAN CHIEF MINISTER OF THE ISLE OF MAN MR HUGH G. RECTION JUST SEND £20 IN AN ENVELOPE TO P.O BOX 69 DOUGLAS ISLE OF MAN. IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. SO MANY WHINGING F*****S ON HERE TRYING TO BE ALL POMPOUS AND CLEVER. LETS GET BACK TO BASICS, BUTTER THE BREAD LOVINGLY, SLAP THE HAM ON THE BUTTERY YEAST AND GOBBLE THAT BUTTY. NO NEED FOR IT TO BE ANY MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT. AS ALWAYS THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, NOW FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE MEDIA AND FIRST UP TODAY IS PORK-... SORRY PAUL MOULTON FROM ISLE OF MAN TV, FASTER MIND PAUL GOOD AFTERNOON. PAUL MOULTON : G-G-G-G-GOOD AFTERNOON C-C-C-CHIEF MINISTER CAN YOU PLEASE E-E-E-E-ELABORATE ON THE CURRENT R-R-R-R-RESTRICTIONS YOU'VE BROUGHT IN TODAY.... WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE ALLOWED TO CARRY ON WORKING OUTDOORS AND WITH OTHERS AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO STAY INDOORS ON THIS WONDERFUL WEATHER AND WORK, S-S-S-S-S-SURELY THAT IS UNFAIR?? DURRRRRR DURR DUR DUR DURRRRRR WELL THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION PAUL AND WELL THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE, WE ARE TAKING MITIGATING STEPS AND WE PLAN TO REDUCE TRANSMISSION WHERE POSSIBLE BUT ALSO LET THE ISLAND CONTINUE TURNING THE COGS FOR THE BIG BOYS UP IN DANDARA HQ THAT SPANK OUR LATEX COVERED, BUTTERED UP ARSES IN RETURN FOR A BROWN ENVELOPE OR FIVE. I THINK IVE COVERED ALL ANGLES THERE PAUL AND NOTHING IS UP FOR INTERPRETATION? DOES MINISTER FOR PUBLIC HEALTH DOCTOR HENRYSKETTA EWWWW-ART HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? HENRYSKETTA EWWW-ART : NO THANK YOU CHIEF MINISTER RECTION I THINK YOU'VE ERECTED THAT POINT VERY CLEARLY, CONCISELY AND I HAVE NO FURTHER BOLLOCKS TO ADD. ....... So Manx Forums, have I made my viewpoint and mock-up press briefing for when I am undoubtedly elected Chief Minister HRH Hugh. G. Rection. Clear? Thanks and Fastyr Mie. You've got my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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