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40 minutes ago, trmpton said:

Because they were made to have a test due to being a close contact, Orr hospital admission etc.

The test came back positive.  If they hadn’t been selected for a test they wouldn’t have known.

Me included.  Not a single symptom 

Fair enough. You have based your view on a real world example. 

However, unless your family and social circle runs into hundred of thousands of people representing a full spread of ages and health conditions it does not substantiate the claim.

I'd settle for a 'good number' or  good proportion.

I used 'some'. Some could be few or many. 

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13 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Fair enough. You have based your view on a real world example. 

However, unless your family and social circle runs into hundred of thousands of people representing a full spread of ages and health conditions it does not substantiate the claim.

I'd settle for a 'good number' or  good proportion.

I used 'some'. Some could be few or many. 

Of the 20 plus people I know who tested positive, only 2 had any symptoms at all and one of them died

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28 minutes ago, trmpton said:

Of the 20 plus people I know who tested positive, only 2 had any symptoms at all and one of them died

That's an interesting experience. I can see why you would form that view. 

I know about 25 people who have tested positive and not a single one was asymptomatic. Granted, about 5 only had very minor symptoms. 2 were in intensive care and the rest had symptoms akin to a bad cold/cough or flu. Some said they felt very ill but not anywhere needing hospitalization. 

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1 hour ago, Nom de plume said:

I think it’s fairly safe to assume we are now sticking with 2.5 until the schools break up on July 23rd.

Unless something radical happens.

I can live with that ‘IF’ all restrictions are lifted then.

Yes is agree. By then all the O50s will be double jabbed + 2weeks. No excuses not to.

Correction. All those classes as vulnerable will be double jabbed.

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7 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

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From the latest dashboard:

Symptomatic 396 + 400 = 796  ie  68%

Asymptomatic 151 + 217 = 368  ie 32%

Of those tested.

So 368 people only found out they had it because of a test.  Therefore it is safe to assume a lot more had it and didn’t notice or get tested - obviously 

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5 minutes ago, trmpton said:

Of those tested.

So 368 people only found out they had it because of a test.  Therefore it is safe to assume a lot more had it and didn’t notice or get tested - obviously 

That's a fair point. I was just going to say that. 

Unless these were truly random samples of people and this was the proportion of positives.

We will really never know how many were infected, asymptomatic,  but not tested. That was my point. 

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4 hours ago, TheTeapot said:

It's interesting to note pretty much everyone was baffled by the lack of an emergency advisory committee, and now one has finally been set up theres a load of kick off because they do't like what it came up with.

I criticised because they hardly came up with anything novel or insightful.  Depends on what question was asked of them  however. 

Nevertheless, I am glad they are there.

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2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

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From the latest dashboard:

Symptomatic 396 + 400 = 796  ie  68%

Asymptomatic 151 + 217 = 368  ie 32%

It’s also thought that anyone who’s had both vaccines is also now likely to be Asymptomatic, which is what I meant by 80% of the island (vaccinated) will now be Asymptomatic.

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1 hour ago, Roxanne said:

Man-Covid

Well we know that men are more likely to die from Covid than women so it's not unreasonable to think they might suffer more from symptoms.  What's interesting in these Manx figures is that women are more likely to report symptoms (72%) then men were (65%).  But it's also a bit unusual that there are slightly more men testing positive than women (53%-47%), in most statistics I've seen it's the other way round.

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Anyone here watch the PGA golf each week from various idyllic settings around the States.

Fully opened, crowds everywhere, mixing, drinking, socialising.

Its the same in hockey stadiums, concerts etc.

Is their vaccination programme so far ahead of the U.K.’s in terms of % doses administered? I read at the beginning of June they (adults) were about 50% first dosed, 40% double dosed.

Why are we so risk averse - genuine question.

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