trmpton Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cambon said: If you have genuine need to bring people over to do jobs, you can get them over. You say you cannot easily do business trips, but it is not that difficult and is doable. You cannot bring friends here, but nothing stopping you going and seeing them. A month ago you were calling for the exact situation we have now. When we do finally remove restrictions from the borders, you will still find something to moan about! Nope. All I have ever wanted is free travel to and from the UK and would have no issue living with local restrictions like masks in order to allow it. Its the selfish who can’t see the impacts on others who want everything closed down 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cambon said: Not really. Those sorts of jobs are now allowed, provided you follow the guidelines. Where are you getting that from? 111 and the general COVID advice line have repeatedly told us they aren’t and it’s only immediate family and property owners allowed over. Still no sponsored business travel according to the people who are supposed to advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 @Cambonyou are wrong, again. Plenty of people needed here to complete various projects currently not allowed Entry permitted only for key workers required for preservation of life, public safety and CNI Controlled return of residents Those entering required to complete Landing Form for contact tracing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) My main concerns would be any plans to extend the vaccination programme to young adults and children. These groups have been shown to be at reduced risk. Until phase 3 testing on the Pfizer vaccination has been completed by 2023 then last week's approval for 'emergency use' by the Medicines and Health Products Regulatory Authority should not be considered. Didn't we learn anything from the Thalidomide and contaminated blood products scandals ? I know several parents who are determined their children will not be vaccinated. Added later - Just read Lagmans posts on the who will have the vaccine thread. Good read. Edited June 13, 2021 by Apple more info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Apple said: My main concerns would be any plans to extend the vaccination programme to young adults and children. These groups have been shown to be at reduced risk. Until phase 3 testing on the Pfizer vaccination has been completed by 2023 then last week's approval for 'emergency use' by the Medicines and Health Products Regulatory Authority should not be considered. Didn't we learn anything from the Thalidomide and contaminated blood products scandals ? I know several parents who are determined their children will not be vaccinated. Added later - Just read Lagmans posts on the who will have the vaccine thread. Good read. Just get your facts right though. Thalidomide was a drug and not a vaccine. Totally different. Very poor comparison. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 4 hours ago, trmpton said: @Cambonyou are wrong, again. Plenty of people needed here to complete various projects currently not allowed Entry permitted only for key workers required for preservation of life, public safety and CNI Controlled return of residents Those entering required to complete Landing Form for contact tracing I am shocked! I just looked at the gov.im website and I admit this is a rare occasion that I am wrong! It is only key workers. However, when the announcement was made on the radio, they did say that people with work contracts could now come over, proved they test and isolate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cambon said: I am shocked! I just looked at the gov.im website and I admit this is a rare occasion that I am wrong! It is only key workers. However, when the announcement was made on the radio, they did say that people with work contracts could now come over, proved they test and isolate. That is people relocating to a new job. There is zero logic behind having made the key worker restrictions tighter when they opened other stuff up. As is the IOM COVID way. No place for common sense or logic. It is causing a lot of businesses a lot of issues - not surprisingly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I’ve resigned myself to the thought it’s never ending. One massive climate change last roll of the dice. I’m glad I did my travel when I got the chance. A shame my parents won’t get to enjoy their retirement as was planned & will likely die here unable to fulfil dreams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 What the fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Sarc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: I’ve resigned myself to the thought it’s never ending. One massive climate change last roll of the dice. I’m glad I did my travel when I got the chance. A shame my parents won’t get to enjoy their retirement as was planned & will likely die here unable to fulfil dreams. That's amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Apple said: Didn't we learn anything from the Thalidomide and contaminated blood products scandals ? All approved by regulatory authorities. 'nuff said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/govt-warned-of-significant-risks-with-june-28-border-reopening/ Seeds being sown Edited June 14, 2021 by thommo2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 minute ago, thommo2010 said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/govt-warned-of-significant-risks-with-june-28-border-reopening/ So does Joe Public get to see 'the document'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Albert Tatlock said: So does Joe Public get to see 'the document'? https://www.gov.im/media/1373244/9621-eag-advice-note-to-the-council-of-ministers.pdf Yes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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