snowman Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Not really, working in a health care setting they are dealing with more vulnerable people than those they would interact with in a pub Clearly don't know what you're talking about In one post you've denigrated the attentive workers who keep people safe PPE works More risk catching it in community than at an outpatient clinic ! Edited June 15, 2021 by snowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Not really, working in a health care setting they are dealing with more vulnerable people than those they would interact with in a pub Vulnerable people...there's more in the Albert than in hospital 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, snowman said: Clearly don't know what you're talking about More risk catching it in community than at an outpatient clinic ! Loads of articles online about thousands catching covid in hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Loads of articles online about thousands catching covid in hospital. Dentists, opticians, care workers, receptionists, et al All unable to go off island thanks to the pitchfork brigade Edited June 15, 2021 by snowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Loads of articles online about thousands catching covid in hospital. Any on island ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, trmpton said: How would that work. Because every country in Europe, Asia and Africa all neighbour each other. Should they all have the same restrictions? That where the green list for countries come in, all green list countries should have the same objective, if UK residents have restrictions and yet we have absolutely nothing when they come on holiday/visit family then it makes an absolute mockery of us. Edited June 15, 2021 by Annoymouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, trmpton said: Thats not ill though. You said people were ill. Having a runny nose doesn't make you ill. It makes you have a runny nose. You use inflammatory language to try and exaggerate a point. 70 people testing positive is a non issue. If they were all previously fit and healthy people who were now in ICU you would have a point and it would be a real concern. Some people with no symptoms and some with cold like symptoms aren't a concern or even worth mentioning. That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. However, as I said to Gladys earlier today, we need to keep an eye on the CIs, because they are basically three weeks ahead of us, and Jersey has had similar restrictions to England, but still, the virus is moving fast. So far, nobody is seriously ill. If or when that changes we need to take note and act accordingly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Cambon said: That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. However, as I said to Gladys earlier today, we need to keep an eye on the CIs, because they are basically three weeks ahead of us, and Jersey has had similar restrictions to England, but still, the virus is moving fast. So far, nobody is seriously ill. If or when that changes we need to take note and act accordingly. Agreed. One of the differences between you and I though (and there are many 😀) is that you assume "when" and I assume "if". You think worst case is inevitable and I just cant see it happening. Either way we just need this thing done with and the only option seems to be vaccinations. At least we did over 100 today, taking our 14 day average up to about 85. Good work IOMG. I am sure there will be people along soon to congratulate them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, snowman said: I think it's bullshit that health workers have to stay away from work for 10 days It is bullshit because nurses and doctors at the hospital are able to go back to work after they have had their first clear test. 1 hour ago, snowman said: All unable to go off island thanks to the pitchfork brigade Where are you getting this from? Have you actually asked any of these workplaces if this is true or are you just getting this information from a person down the pub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, Cambon said: That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. However, as I said to Gladys earlier today, we need to keep an eye on the CIs, because they are basically three weeks ahead of us, and Jersey has had similar restrictions to England, but still, the virus is moving fast. So far, nobody is seriously ill. If or when that changes we need to take note and act accordingly. We need to accept people will have covid, be ill and sometimes die from it. That's all we really need to do. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 61,000 vaccinated fans at Hungary Vs Portugal last night. Great to see and hear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 It will be interesting to see how this is administered. Who checks vaccine status and where? Do we just go for it or do we still need to let IOMG know our travel plans? Direction notices will still need to be issued for the unjabbed I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: Direction notices will still need to be issued for the unjabbed I would have thought. Build a holding pen on Parade Street for the unwashed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: It will be interesting to see how this is administered. Who checks vaccine status and where? Do we just go for it or do we still need to let IOMG know our travel plans? Direction notices will still need to be issued for the unjabbed I would have thought. RR numbers and Landing Forms. Border Force will be responsible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Apologies if I’ve missed this. Under 18’s down to 5 year olds. Where do they stand? Are they being forced to vaccinate in effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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