The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Albert Tatlock said: What was the rush to visit anyway? Could easily have been rescheduled by a week or so. Commonsense is a superpower in govt currently. It was the opening of the new wing etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: It's very little when you consider It's a 5m quid a year operation. It's a lot when you consider how little other charities get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: It's a lot when you consider how little other charities get. Other charities are not as big and dont provide as much support and services as Hospice does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floors4u Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 57 minutes ago, Twitch said: Hospice receives around £600k pa from Government according to its 2019 Annual Report. Hardly ‘very little’, though in my view it should be increased. It's not a donation , hospice cover a lot of services on behalf of iom health service 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: Other charities are not as big and dont provide as much support and services as Hospice does. True. But totally irrelevant to the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Happier diner said: True. But totally irrelevant to the issue. No it isn't. A silly comment was made about the Hospice effectively not wanting to upset the CM or civil service. I pointed out the stupidity of the comment because Hospice simply have zero reason to invite him through fear of repercussions of not doing so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: It's a lot when you consider how little other charities get. 20 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: Other charities are not as big and dont provide as much support and services as Hospice does. You could also argue that Hospice provides a service that should be provided by NHS/Manx Care in the first place. Edited June 19, 2021 by Annoymouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 I think what lots of people are missing is that Hospice isn’t just a health care setting. He didn’t come into contact with service users or staff providing for them. Its a big building with lots of non health care areas. It’s like saying the boiler room or laundry room at Nobles are a health care setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 He should not have gone - End Of The bigger man would have said although tiny why take the risk and sent someone else but you get the feeling that a photo opp out trumps the safety of the Hospice residents, disgusting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 minute ago, John Wright said: I think what lots of people are missing is that Hospice isn’t just a health care setting. He didn’t come into contact with service users or staff providing for them. Its a big building with lots of non health care areas. It’s like saying the boiler room or laundry room at Nobles are a health care setting. That's because the boiler room or laundry room at Nobles are a health care setting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Happier diner said: That's because the boiler room or laundry room at Nobles are a health care setting Are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 23 hours ago, Happier diner said: Have you got an example of this practice on the IOM? Encouraging is not the same as threatening. I know someone working within healthcare who has been challenged over her decision not to have the vaccine on an almost daily basis, not just between staff/management but also patients who ask if she’s had the vaccine before being seen, the discussion usually follows that they feel it should be mandatory for every healthcare worker unless it’s on medical grounds. Despite wearing full PPE a few patients have refused treatment because she isn’t vaccinated, so it seems to be a case of get vaccinated or look for another job because it’s causing to many issues. So the ‘encouragement’ of vaccination is very similar to the public mask wearing at the height of the pandemic when it was a strongly advised ‘should’ rather than ‘must’, it didn’t stop the glares and disgust towards those who chose not to wear them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunroamin Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, John Wright said: I think what lots of people are missing is that Hospice isn’t just a health care setting. He didn’t come into contact with service users or staff providing for them. Its a big building with lots of non health care areas. It’s like saying the boiler room or laundry room at Nobles are a health care setting. Irrelevant. The rules he inflicted on everyone are clear. He broke them for a bit of self aggrandisement!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 55 minutes ago, John Wright said: Are they? That would be a good arguement for a courtroom. This isn't though is it. It's about whether common sense was missing. Like I said, it's not the end of the world either way. Would you say the kitchen on the Ben was a marine environment? Would you say the kitchen on the Ben formed part of a ship setting. We could go on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) Rights and wrongs aside, couldn't Quayle predict that his actions would cause a shitstorm of recriminations? If "yes", he's an idiot. If "no", he's an idiot. Edited June 19, 2021 by Sheldon 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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