IOM Covid removing restrictions

[John Wright]

2 minutes ago, forestboy said:

Totally confused as to what is required now by any visitors be it family or joe public. 
Just proof of double jab in UK and ID?
Is a landing card required?

 

 

You have to register your vaccination status on line. Form took 5 minutes. Acknowledged immediately and got the exemption certificate in 10 minutes. Exemption certificate has two numbers. 
 

when you travel you have to fill in a landing form using those two numbers. Either on line or on paper at Heysham.

[forestboy]

33 minutes ago, John Wright said:

You have to register your vaccination status on line. Form took 5 minutes. Acknowledged immediately and got the exemption certificate in 10 minutes. Exemption certificate has two numbers. 
 

when you travel you have to fill in a landing form using those two numbers. Either on line or on paper at Heysham.

Where can I find this Form?

[John Wright]

23 minutes ago, forestboy said:

Where can I find this Form?

Application 

You will need to complete the online application form and submit proof of your vaccine status at least 36 hours BEFOREyou arrive. We will accept the following as proof of vaccine status (you will need to scan and attach to your application):

• NHS England secure paper letter
• NHS Scotland secure paper letter
• NHS Wales secure paper letter
• Bailiwick of Guernsey secure paper letter
• State of Jersey secure paper letter
• NHS app – PDF or screenshot
• Patient Access App – Screenshot
• The NHS card issued when you receive your vaccinations, from any jurisdiction in the Common Travel Area

Complete the vaccine exemption form >>https://services.gov.im/travel-notification-service/vaccination-exemption

If you meet the criteria, an exemption certificate will be issued allowing you to travel to the Isle of Man without the need to isolate or have a test for COVID-19 when you arrive.

Your confirmation email will include a vaccination exemption reference number which you will use to complete your Landing Form.

Also bring a form of photographic identification with you for all adults who are travelling, such as a driver’s licence or a passport

You will only need to apply for vaccination exemption to travel to the Isle of Man once.  You can use the same vaccination exemption reference number  and QR code for any subsequent visits to the Isle of Man. 

Landing form 

Once your exemption request has been approved and you have your unique reference number, you will be able to complete a Landing Form. You can complete this Landing Form up to 48 hours before arrival.

Completion of this form any sooner would invalidate your application which may delay your onward journey on arrival.

Once you have completed your Landing Form you will receive an email containing a QR code, which you will need to present to Port Security Officers on arrival, along with photographic ID. This QR code can either be shown on a mobile device or printed before travel. It is recommended that you carry a printed copy of your QR form when you travel.

Manx residents do not need approval to leave the Island, however they still need to complete either a vaccination exemption or apply for an entry permit to return. Manx residents will be generated a Returning Resident (RR) number when they apply, which is required for the Landing Form. If you have an existing RR number you can use this each time you travel.

Complete the landing form >>

You can also download and print a paper copy of the Landing Form for manual completion. This should be passed to the Port Security Officers on arrival.

[Roger Mexico]

6 hours ago, wrighty said:

I’ve had a look, and nothing definitive that I can find. Get @Roger Mexicoon the case.

Incidence of anaphylaxis to mRNA vaccines is between 2.5 and 11.1 per million doses apparently. That’s pretty low.

It is clear however that general vaccine hesitancy, for whatever reason, whether reasonable or tin-foil-hat, is a much bigger problem in achieving herd immunity than the very few who genuinely can’t have a vaccine or in whom it won’t work.  And they are exactly the people that need there to be herd immunity…

To be fair to John, the advice on pregnancy only changed comparatively recently and they replaced a leaflet that said they probably shouldn't with one that said they probably should[1]. 

But the actual number of people who genuinely can't have the vaccine is indeed very small.  In the latest ONS Survey on vaccine hesitancy (28 Apr to 23 May) delving into the data suggests that only 4 people out of a sample of 15,000 had "been advised by a health or medical professional not to get the vaccine".  Though another 40 or so were "worried about the effect on an existing health condition".

And 'vaccine hesitancy' is itself not only small, but even then over-estimated.  The ONS report gives a figure of only 6%, though higher in some groups, notably the young.  But they do this by including those who effective said they don't know[2]. 

If you ignore these and only look at those who said they were "fairly or very unlikely to have a coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine if offered or [had] decided not to take a vaccine when offered", there were only 370 out of the sample - less than 2.5%.  And even some of these will only be 'fairly' unlikely and could well agree when the vaccine is offered.  Only 2% said they had been offered vaccination and refused (only 1% of over-50s) and even some of those may accept later.  15% of the 2.5% claimed they "would prefer someone in more need of a vaccine to receive it before me" and that was higher for younger age groups.

So general hesitancy really isn't much of a problem as is claimed and we shouldn't be fooled by noisy minorities (either tinfoil merchants or those denouncing them) into thinking it is.
 

[1]  Obviously they didn't produce these leaflets themselves, they took the English ones and stuck an IOMG/Manx Care logo top right.

[2]  In practically any opinion poll, you can guarantee that the younger an age grouping is, the more likely those in it will say "don't know" to any question.  In this case this explains almost all the vaccine 'hesitancy' in the young. 

[WTF]

5 hours ago, 2112 said:

I hope they are spending!

pot of tea for one and two cups please, any discount for pensioners ?

[John Wright]

19 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

To be fair to John, the advice on pregnancy only changed comparatively recently and they replaced a leaflet that said they probably shouldn't with one that said they probably should[1]. 

But the actual number of people who genuinely can't have the vaccine is indeed very small.  In the latest ONS Survey on vaccine hesitancy (28 Apr to 23 May) delving into the data suggests that only 4 people out of a sample of 15,000 had "been advised by a health or medical professional not to get the vaccine".  Though another 40 or so were "worried about the effect on an existing health condition".

And 'vaccine hesitancy' is itself not only small, but even then over-estimated.  The ONS report gives a figure of only 6%, though higher in some groups, notably the young.  But they do this by including those who effective said they don't know[2]. 

If you ignore these and only look at those who said they were "fairly or very unlikely to have a coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine if offered or [had] decided not to take a vaccine when offered", there were only 370 out of the sample - less than 2.5%.  And even some of these will only be 'fairly' unlikely and could well agree when the vaccine is offered.  Only 2% said they had been offered vaccination and refused (only 1% of over-50s) and even some of those may accept later.  15% of the 2.5% claimed they "would prefer someone in more need of a vaccine to receive it before me" and that was higher for younger age groups.

So general hesitancy really isn't much of a problem as is claimed and we shouldn't be fooled by noisy minorities (either tinfoil merchants or those denouncing them) into thinking it is.
 

[1]  Obviously they didn't produce these leaflets themselves, they took the English ones and stuck an IOMG/Manx Care logo top right.

[2]  In practically any opinion poll, you can guarantee that the younger an age grouping is, the more likely those in it will say "don't know" to any question.  In this case this explains almost all the vaccine 'hesitancy' in the young. 

Hesitancy

 

We seem to have it good.

 

Here are the group by group percentage vaccination figures.

 

Care home 100%

80+ 100%

Health & Care Workers 100%

75-79 96%

70-74 89%

65-69 91%

16-64 extreme clinically vulnerable 91%

60-64 92%

55-69 91.5%

50-54 89%

45-49 83%

40-44 78%

35-39 75%

30-39 73%

25-29 75%

20-24 76%

18-19 68%

 

87% of 17+ have had 1 dose and 65% of those have had 2 doses

[Albert Tatlock]

Health and care workers 100%? Find that hard to believe...there are at least a couple who are anti-vaxxers.

What does the small print say?

[John Wright]

1 minute ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Health and care workers 100%? Find that hard to believe...there are at least a couple who are anti-vaxxers.

What does the small print say?

Straight off the vaccination dashboard. I’m inclined to agree, and I think @Roger Mexico does as well. The figures aren’t reliable. In fact 80+ chimes in at 102% so I rounded down.

I can’t see where they got the 72,000 population (17-100) figure from, either. I think it’s Drs lists. I suspect there may be a few ghost patients. Or 2016 census was way out.

[Happier diner]

22 minutes ago, WTF said:

pot of tea for one and two cups please, any discount for pensioners ?

You forgot the extra pot of hot water

[WTF]

2 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

You forgot the extra pot of hot water

oh yes, my bad.

[Itsmeee]

They’re known in the trade as ‘teas and wees’

[Twitch]

44 minutes ago, WTF said:

pot of tea for one and two cups please, any discount for pensioners ?

As they’re likely paying £20 per night for dinner, bed and breakfast, probably not.

[snowman]

1 hour ago, forestboy said:

Where can I find this Form?

Perhaps you are either in a wind up or shouldn't be allowed out on your own

[SimonBradshaw]

11 hours ago, doc.fixit said:

Well, we've just spent at least 30 mins trying to find the times of opening for the covid test centre on the govt. site. Still haven't found them! Now maybe it's our fault but why aren't the times right there in front of the searcher? Maybe they are but they are not obvious to us. Like ALL govt. docs they are full of unnecessary descriptions of what they have done.

Make it simple, who, what, where, when, that's all we need!

By the way, what are the opening times of the covid test centre?

In the same position - re. a more recent post by yourself, we also have children travelling with us. Have emailed a couple of depts. to get official opening/ closing times to be able to plan better. Appreciate booking is needed to get time for a test for the children, but need to plan if it's not going to be the day of arrival.

[NoTailT]

54 minutes ago, SimonBradshaw said:

In the same position - re. a more recent post by yourself, we also have children travelling with us. Have emailed a couple of depts. to get official opening/ closing times to be able to plan better. Appreciate booking is needed to get time for a test for the children, but need to plan if it's not going to be the day of arrival.

Isn't opening times more dependent on volume of tests? It's not exactly bloody Shoprite.

From experience I've always been offered tests up to around 230pm. But it's always depended on volume. I'd say if you fly in the morning or arrive on the overnight boat you're in a good place to pre-book a test. Assume to be offered a slot 1030/11 readily if you want one for around then.

Edited June 29, 2021 by NoTailT