finlo Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: The Isle of Man Government have no right to demand to see a passport. It is not an international border. Although the Manx Border Force may need reminding of this. Other forms of photo ID are available and perfectly acceptable. Hmm something else here that will be turned into a Naziesque organisation! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, finlo said: Hmm something else here that will be turned into a Naziesque organisation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunroamin Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/23/2021 at 9:26 AM, TheTeapot said: How was the UK's half arsed semi restricted purgatory? Basically ignored? Don’t believe everything you read/hear in the media. The vast majority are being very careful but there are too many numpties it has to be said…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 8 hours ago, oooohtony said: Because it’s where you were born and the rest of your family live? In normal times you can cancel out how crap it is here with the ability to travel a lot and still be near family. Currently, and for over a year we can’t and we have been stuck on this little tip. That is why so many locals have been travelling since as soon as we were able, even just to the UK, and why loads will be off over the bank holiday weekend. I can only imagine people who love it here haven’t travelled much? It’s a safe place to bring kids up and educate them (assuming you can get away regularly). That is it. There is nothing else on offer that you can’t get better in thousands of other places. Every "staycation" is one more added to Laurence/DFE's "satisfied visitor" figures... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 10 hours ago, pongo said: Why live somewhere you don't like? I love this place but I enjoy travel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Genuine question, what’s to stop a non vaccinated person borrowing someone else’s vaccination card (mine doesn’t even have my name written on it), taking a picture and uploading it as 2+2 proof? When you apply for your vaccination exemption to enter the IOM, do they check medical records? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4652009 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Itsmeee said: Genuine question, what’s to stop a non vaccinated person borrowing someone else’s vaccination card (mine doesn’t even have my name written on it), taking a picture and uploading it as 2+2 proof? When you apply for your vaccination exemption to enter the IOM, do they check medical records? Are people that desperate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, Itsmeee said: Genuine question, what’s to stop a non vaccinated person borrowing someone else’s vaccination card (mine doesn’t even have my name written on it), taking a picture and uploading it as 2+2 proof? When you apply for your vaccination exemption to enter the IOM, do they check medical records? They would be committing a fraud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oooohtony Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, chris4652009 said: Are people that desperate? People are definitely doing it. If a few cases coming in was actually an issue this would be a real concern. As it is it just shows how pointless the whole thing is and that they don’t really care and are just putting a few pointless measures in place to placate those who are scared. If they were in anyway serious about people following the rules they wouldn’t have allowed such an obvious and simple workaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Happier diner said: They would be committing a fraud. And whilst the authorities shouldn’t, and legally can’t, check your medical record to cross reference, I think they can check their vaccination administration records to see if the person applying received vaccinations on the days on the card. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, oooohtony said: People are definitely doing it. If a few cases coming in was actually an issue this would be a real concern. As it is it just shows how pointless the whole thing is and that they don’t really care and are just putting a few pointless measures in place to placate those who are scared. If they were in anyway serious about people following the rules they wouldn’t have allowed such an obvious and simple workaround. It isn’t a workaround. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Happier diner said: They would be committing a fraud. And one that could be easily detected and prosecuted retrospectively. Edited to add: I hadn't refreshed and seen that John had made the same point, but it's worth emphasising just how easily these sorts of fraud can be picked up if there's the will to do so. Edited July 2, 2021 by Roger Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oooohtony Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, John Wright said: It isn’t a workaround. Whatever it is - it works according to someone who arrived on Tuesday. Double dosed parter used her app, he used her card. No one checked properly and no one noticed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, oooohtony said: Whatever it is - it works according to someone who arrived on Tuesday. Double dosed parter used her app, he used her card. No one checked properly and no one noticed. Of course, you raised your concerns with the appropriate authorities? 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, oooohtony said: People are definitely doing it. If a few cases coming in was actually an issue this would be a real concern. As it is it just shows how pointless the whole thing is and that they don’t really care and are just putting a few pointless measures in place to placate those who are scared. If they were in anyway serious about people following the rules they wouldn’t have allowed such an obvious and simple workaround. I doubt it was some clever loophole engineering. You only have to do a day 0 test anyway. It is just an easy answer for letting grannies without smartphones go back and forth. I would imagine it’d be treated like many of our other COVID breaches. You’d get the book absolutely thrown at you if caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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