IOM Covid removing restrictions

[Zarley]

If cases in Britain explode as a result of the lifted regulations, New Zealand may also consider putting the country on a no-fly list.

Epidemiologist and public health professor Michael Baker said New Zealand’s future roadmap could be built on a mixture of high vaccination and other measures such as mask mandates, or limited lockdowns to contain outbreaks. He said the country was in a “privileged position” where it could make an informed choice about whether to continue with an elimination approach or change tack.

“By every metric [New Zealand’s elimination approach] is outperforming the alternatives – from a public health point of view, an equity point of view, a freedoms point of view … an economic point of view.”

We were also once in a "privileged position" although I realise that with being so closely tied to the UK, we probably never really stood a chance of maintaining that position.

And as others have said, we've never really employed any mitigation strategies - apart from border closures - we've either been locked down or open. No in-between measures such as masks or social distancing. 

 

[cissolt]

1 hour ago, The Chief said:

love this slide, its like the senior CS had a meeting decided which stats might be relevant then gave it to a bunch of toddlers to come up with the design.

the 1217 highlighted in the centre is nothing more than scare mongering as is the death figure.

the only bits that are relevant right now are the 50/7/0 thats all.

it's disgusting that someone probably very highly paid came up with this shit and someone probably much more highly paid approved it.

I believe it was outsourced to a very very expensive consultant.  Which might explain why it actually functions, unlike the census debacle

[AlanShimmin]

10 minutes ago, Zarley said:

If cases in Britain explode as a result of the lifted regulations, New Zealand may also consider putting the country on a no-fly list.

Epidemiologist and public health professor Michael Baker said New Zealand’s future roadmap could be built on a mixture of high vaccination and other measures such as mask mandates, or limited lockdowns to contain outbreaks. He said the country was in a “privileged position” where it could make an informed choice about whether to continue with an elimination approach or change tack.

“By every metric [New Zealand’s elimination approach] is outperforming the alternatives – from a public health point of view, an equity point of view, a freedoms point of view … an economic point of view.”

We were also once in a "privileged position" although I realise that with being so closely tied to the UK, we probably never really stood a chance of maintaining that position.

And as others have said, we've never really employed any mitigation strategies - apart from border closures - we've either been locked down or open. No in-between measures such as masks or social distancing. 

 

All absolutely fine until you get a few cases breaking out and then you're in and out of lockdown 

[Nom de plume]

1 hour ago, Zarley said:

If cases in Britain explode as a result of the lifted regulations, New Zealand may also consider putting the country on a no-fly list.

Epidemiologist and public health professor Michael Baker said New Zealand’s future roadmap could be built on a mixture of high vaccination and other measures such as mask mandates, or limited lockdowns to contain outbreaks. He said the country was in a “privileged position” where it could make an informed choice about whether to continue with an elimination approach or change tack.

“By every metric [New Zealand’s elimination approach] is outperforming the alternatives – from a public health point of view, an equity point of view, a freedoms point of view … an economic point of view.”

We were also once in a "privileged position" although I realise that with being so closely tied to the UK, we probably never really stood a chance of maintaining that position.

And as others have said, we've never really employed any mitigation strategies - apart from border closures - we've either been locked down or open. No in-between measures such as masks or social distancing. 

 

“A freedoms point of view”

We live in a global world ffs.

Living on the South Island sheep shagging is no definition of freedoms.

[Roger Mexico]

5 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

All absolutely fine until you get a few cases breaking out and then you're in and out of lockdown 

But New Zealand handled its lockdowns in a very different way from the Isle of Man.  Rather than dither and pretend nothing is happening for a fortnight, they locked down as soon a case was detected, tested very intensively and used genomics to make sure they isolated all contacts.  They then lifted lockdown after a only a few days, but continued testing and were prepared to do a short, sharp lockdown again if another case emerged.

Basically they followed the scientists who were looking at what would work, rather what the PR people and politicians thought would make them look good.

[AlanShimmin]

1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

But New Zealand handled its lockdowns in a very different way from the Isle of Man.  Rather than dither and pretend nothing is happening for a fortnight, they locked down as soon a case was detected, tested very intensively and used genomics to make sure they isolated all contacts.  They then lifted lockdown after a only a few days, but continued testing and were prepared to do a short, sharp lockdown again if another case emerged.

Basically they followed the scientists who were looking at what would work, rather what the PR people and politicians thought would make them look good.

Same difference. In out, in out, shake the economy about. 

[TerryFuchwit]

1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

But New Zealand handled its lockdowns in a very different way from the Isle of Man.  Rather than dither and pretend nothing is happening for a fortnight, they locked down as soon a case was detected, tested very intensively and used genomics to make sure they isolated all contacts.  They then lifted lockdown after a only a few days, but continued testing and were prepared to do a short, sharp lockdown again if another case emerged.

Basically they followed the scientists who were looking at what would work, rather what the PR people and politicians thought would make them look good.

What?  That last paragraph is fantasy.

[thommo2010]

New Zealand and Australia have pretty much locked themselves away from the rest of the world. Large parts of Australia have gone into lockdown following the discovery of 30 cases. That is no way to live.

[Ham_N_Eggs]

20 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

New Zealand and Australia have pretty much locked themselves away from the rest of the world. Large parts of Australia have gone into lockdown following the discovery of 30 cases. That is no way to live.

The Australian and New Zealand economy have been hit a lot less with their short sharp lockdowns than other economies which have pseudo lockdowns such as the UK. They both just need to step up there vaccination programmes. 

[oooohtony]

Are the hospitals overflowing here or in the Channel Islands yet?

All I can see is full bars and restaurants, people out in the sun, and thousands of people having indoor gatherings for the football tonight.

All is good. Especially with the announcements in the UK.  No isolation for double jabbed from amber list countries makes travel much for viable this summer and autumn than lots of people were predicting.

Nice to see a positive buzz around the place. Weather helps

[thommo2010]

19 minutes ago, oooohtony said:

Are the hospitals overflowing here or in the Channel Islands yet?

All I can see is full bars and restaurants, people out in the sun, and thousands of people having indoor gatherings for the football tonight.

All is good. Especially with the announcements in the UK.  No isolation for double jabbed from amber list countries makes travel much for viable this summer and autumn than lots of people were predicting.

Nice to see a positive buzz around the place. Weather helps

GMB were in full scare mongering mode this morning, had a reporter at a hospital in Liverpool that was 'filling up' with covid cases. the same hospital had 270 covid patients in January. Now? 19 almost all of them unvaccinated

[quilp]

Ashford's latest offering to Moulton. And the nation, I suppose...

 

 

 

Some waistcoat...

[Itsmeee]

24 minutes ago, quilp said:

Ashford's latest offering to Moulton. And the nation, I suppose...

 

 

 

Some waistcoat...

Some waistcoat……..But not quite enough….

Edited July 7, 2021 by Itsmeee

[Itsmeee]

I’ve only just noticed that he has tiny hands….in common with another megalomaniac 

[AlanShimmin]

2 hours ago, thommo2010 said:

New Zealand and Australia have pretty much locked themselves away from the rest of the world. Large parts of Australia have gone into lockdown following the discovery of 30 cases. That is no way to live.

Australia know the jig is up.

 

https://theconversation.com/we-probably-cant-eliminate-covid-in-australia-forever-as-we-vaccinate-we-should-move-to-a-more-sustainable-strategy-163570