Happier diner Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: Apologies, I thought you simply meant if someone in your house tested positive. That's OK. I have worked it out Vaccination Exemption A person who has received the full course of vaccination - currently 2 injections - followed by 14 clear days since the second injection will not have to self-isolate where: They have been identified as a high risk contact of a positive case, or Where a member of their household returns a positive test result You will be asked to provide evidence of your vaccination status when contacted by COVID-111 or Contact Tracing. The vaccination exemption does not apply to a person who develops COVID-19 symptoms or who returns a positive test result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Trump agrees with you, but he is, well, Donald Trump. He isn't exactly known for his sound policy decisions. I am nothing like Donald Trump other than being a bit Orange, ketwig on the top & slightly right of centre. Oh, hang on …. Edited July 9, 2021 by Nom de plume 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 11 people die every minute from extreme hunger around the world & have done so for many, many years. Approximately 7 people die per minute currently through the Covid pandemic. There is no vaccine for hunger, it can’t be transmitted. Have a great weekend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Happier diner said: What's your view on my argument? Well it wasn't really an argument, was it? More a cry for help. Or of despair. I'm afraid I've long since given up trying to understand what the actual regulations surrounding isolation, testing and quarantine say, never mind whether they make any sense. They were a bit incoherent to start with and have just got worse as the Manx government tried to mirror the ever-more nonsensical decisions of the UK. It's not that they're over-lax or unnecessarily restrictive, it's that they frequently manage to be both at the same time. And so badly presented that no one understands them and ends up doing whatever they want. The appropriate regulations (if they even exist) will probably be so badly drafted that they will be unusable, so there will be no comeback. The most depressing thing about the last 18 months or so has been the way in which hardly anyone seems to have learnt anything. Rather than accepting some failures are inevitable and learning from them, they just pretend they never happened and repeat the same mistakes even more enthusiastically. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Certainly worth avoiding any form of testing unless you have absolutely no choice. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Nom de plume said: For all parents (such as I). 0.005 of all Covid deaths have been amongst under 18’s. There is absolutely no need to have your child vaccinated. I took mine to enable travel which still looks like one big lie. And 100% of the people having to take time off work to look after isolating children, affecting the economy are adults, regardless of whether they have been vaccinated or not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 No Covishield vaccines administered in the Isle of Man "Isle of Man residents who have received the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine are being reassured that no doses branded Covishield have been administered on the Island. Covishield – manufactured by the Serum Institute of India – has not been approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA). It led to concerns that anyone who had received the Covishield vaccine would not be able to travel to the EU free from testing and isolation restrictions, despite being fully vaccinated." I'm pretty sure that my first dose was from one of the listed batches...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 If ashie says there weren't then that's good enough for me. I've no reason to doubt him 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: If ashie says there weren't then that's good enough for me. I've no reason to doubt him most have no reason to trust him , rebuttal when exactly ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) "The numbers of the batches not approved by the European Union are 4120Z001, 4120Z002 and 4120Z003." So I've just emailed Ashie this: Edited July 9, 2021 by kevster 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopy2110 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, kevster said: No Covishield vaccines administered in the Isle of Man "Isle of Man residents who have received the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine are being reassured that no doses branded Covishield have been administered on the Island. Covishield – manufactured by the Serum Institute of India – has not been approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA). It led to concerns that anyone who had received the Covishield vaccine would not be able to travel to the EU free from testing and isolation restrictions, despite being fully vaccinated." I'm pretty sure that my first dose was from one of the listed batches...... Me too. Completely contradicts what the media said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopy2110 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, kevster said: "The numbers of the batches not approved by the European Union are 4120Z001, 4120Z002 and 4120Z003." So I've just emailed Ashie this: Let us know what he comes back with please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, swoopy2110 said: Let us know what he comes back with please. Typical IOM Civil Service who do not fully check the implications of a Government Statement before it is issued. What about those vaccinated with these non-approved batch numbers should have been considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 45 minutes ago, swoopy2110 said: Me too. Completely contradicts what the media said. It's not the media's fault, they are merely quoting from what the IOM Government press release says. Technically they may be correct because it says "no doses branded Covishield have been administered on the Island" which will be true as they will have been branded the same as all the other AZ vaccines received. But it's not the name on the box that is the problem, but where they were made. So they are providing reassurance about something that wasn't required. It's true that, based on this BBC piece from six days ago, that the UK DoH claimed the 'three SII batch numbers [...] were being "assessed and are treated as Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca"'. And "All AstraZeneca vaccines given in the UK are the same product and appear on the NHS Covid Pass as Vaxzevria. The European Medicines Agency has authorised this vaccine and we're confident travel will not be affected." But of course they can't dictate to the EU what the EU will or won't accept and the system doesn't seem to be working yet anyway, though individual EU counties may well accept them, just as they are accepting Russian or Chinese vaccines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopy2110 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/vaccine-confusion-as-islander-has-holiday-cancelled/?fbclid=IwAR1qcLL7jdRajbHhT0lDUA17Ga6lAiR8Q7r1OQkGbPbDzSN8lBOhozT7q3c Plot thickens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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