Gladys Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, snowman said: To get Advice Yes, so why aren't they being asked to give it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gladys said: Yes, so why aren't they being asked to give it? Have they not done so once already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I don't suppose that the £240M shortfall in tax revenue has had a teeny-weeny influence on policy? Perhaps the penny has finally dropped with the parish council that yes, the economic damage has been brought about by.....................us, the parish council. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, snowman said: Have they not done so once already? Yes, I have referred to there being just one meeting that we are aware of. Wouldn't you expect that they would consult with them before making significant changes? They don't have to accept their view, but why not ask? So, who has provided the advice for this quite dramatic change to testing? I am not saying this move is wrong, just that the EAG has been set up, it has various interests and perspectives to bring, yet is ignored. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Utah 01 said: I don't suppose that the £240M shortfall in tax revenue has had a teeny-weeny influence on policy? £240M is nothing. It's literally just Bank of England liquidity. Easily borrowed and it basically never has to be paid off. The biggest problems for the British economy, of which IOM is a part, will be Brexit and not Covid related. Not only labour shortages and the cost of imports but also the way in which exports including services have been hit. Edited July 14, 2021 by pongo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAsHell Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Gladys said: Yes, I have referred to there being just one meeting that we are aware of. Wouldn't you expect that they would consult with them before making significant changes? They don't have to accept their view, but why not ask? So, who has provided the advice for this quite dramatic change to testing? I am not saying this move is wrong, just that the EAG has been set up, it has various interests and perspectives to bring, yet is ignored. Thrice https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/council-of-ministers/the-council-of-ministers/council-of-ministers-emergency-advisory-group-eag/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, MadAsHell said: Thrice https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/council-of-ministers/the-council-of-ministers/council-of-ministers-emergency-advisory-group-eag/ That is reassuring, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 7 hours ago, pongo said: £240M is nothing. It's literally just Bank of England liquidity. Easily borrowed and it basically never has to be paid off. The biggest problems for the British economy, of which IOM is a part, will be Brexit and not Covid related. Not only labour shortages and the cost of imports but also the way in which exports including services have been hit. Oh, you’re fucking ace you … “Never has to be paid off” Never stop shining you crazy diamond. Away with the fucking cuckoos like. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4652009 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Still a big fat ZERO in hospital / ICU 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, chris4652009 said: Still a big fat ZERO in hospital / ICU 👍 This latest outbreak only started at the end of June; and then only in the young. It will take a few more days before we see hospitalisations. This always was the problem with using hospitalisations as a gauge. By the time the hospital gets over run (which I hope it never will) it's far too late to put restrictions in place. Edited July 15, 2021 by Ham_N_Eggs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I see that Irish journalist Karen O'Karenehan or whatever her name is is moaning again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: This latest outbreak only started at the end of June; and then only in the young. It will take a few more days before we see hospitalisations. This always was the problem with using hospitalisations as a gauge. By the time the hospital gets over run (which I hope it never will) it's far too late. Are you using the following correlation before issuing your latest death threats: Number of Manx residents who’ve already been infected (unknown) Number of Manx residents already infected (known) Number of Manx residents double vaxed Number of Manx residents single vaxed Number of Manx residents Under 18 and at no risk whatsoever ….. When, in your learned opinion, will the bodies start to stack up? Edited July 15, 2021 by Nom de plume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: I see that Irish journalist Karen O'Karenehan or whatever her name is is moaning again. She knows how to play the game. Nobody knew she existed over here until she started stirring. ETA - get her on the pressers! Edited July 15, 2021 by immortalpuppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, chris4652009 said: Still a big fat ZERO in hospital / ICU 👍 Has this become your morning routine? Posting figures 17 hours after they come out? I expect to see that we’ll be a couple more weeks before hospitalisations start trickling up. The rate in the UK at the moment is 2.65 per 100,000 population per the ONS though that’s currently doubling every 12 days. ONS said the peak rate in the UK was 36.02 per 100k in January off the top of my head. No forecast is expecting the rate to climb nearly that high in the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: Are you using the following correlation before issuing your latest death threats: Number of Manx residents who’ve already been infected (unknown) Number of Manx residents already infected (known) Number of Manx residents double vaxed Number of Manx residents single vaxed Number of Manx residents Under 18 and at no risk whatsoever ….. When, in your learned opinion, will the bodies start to stack up? You do love your dramatic language and flair, death threats my arse. Though, you really shouldn’t tell lies. There is risk for young people. We know that young people are susceptible to long COVID and the complications that brings. This isn’t speculation, it’s scientifically backed and I’ve linked ONS figures before. The rates aren’t insignificant either. You’ve had the option to get your jab, they haven’t yet. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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