Ham_N_Eggs Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, HeliX said: 16.5% positive test rate. Not very good. Award winning. 7 minutes ago, The Old Git said: 115 new cases today. Track and trace have no chance You can see why they've given up. I guess tonight in the briefing it'll all be our fault. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Have you seen any evidence to this happening to anyone in a country where the vulnerable were vaccinated? I can’t find any. However, like you said and like I said in my post it was a concern a year ago. It may be soon to tell - even about the second wave in the UK at the start of the year. Certainly the figures last year were horrendous: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/24/up-to-8700-patients-died-after-catching-covid-in-english-hospitals and so ignored. But that analysis is only from this May. Certainly people should have more idea of what to do to prevent transmission with the right PPE etc and vaccination does reduce transmission of the virus. Though if health workers become more casual about PPE because of vaccination, that advantage may be lost. So there should be fewer cases, but we tend not to see individual ones reported around hospital transmission of viruses (for good and bad reasons) and it may be a while before we see the degree to which risks have been lessened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, The Old Git said: 115 new cases today. Test and trace have no chance Why are we still reporting cases? It just gives the doom mongers more fuel to douse themselves in. Edited July 15, 2021 by Nom de plume 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 The figure will spike as people will now be self testing with LFT’s, these people would have previously gone undetected so the one thing it does show is a huge amount of honesty as people presenting themselves for a pcr test to confirm/deny the LFT result. It’s getting to the stage now that testing/tracing isn’t really of benefit to anyone, short of using it for data collection who is actually benefitting from it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Annoymouse said: It’s getting to the stage now that testing/tracing isn’t really of benefit to anyone, short of using it for data collection who is actually benefitting from it? Would-be contacts of positive cases (were they not to test positive and subsequently isolate) might find it quite useful... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: Why are we still reporting cases? It just gives the doom mongers more fuel to douse themselves in. So people who can't get a vaccination can make an informed personal choice about their movements. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: It’s getting to the stage now that testing/tracing isn’t really of benefit to anyone, short of using it for data collection who is actually benefitting from it? People carrying it out will be doing nicely I'd say . Mind you I wouldnt fancy it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Who is calling 111? Only meant to be people with symptoms or booking tests for travel isn’t it but I thought you could book travel tests online now? What about people who want vaccinations..Isn't that the point of contact.. I remember having to call 111 to book mine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 does that mean Howie and Ashies gongs are under threat?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, Numbnuts said: People carrying it out will be doing nicely I'd say . Mind you I wouldnt fancy it ! Yeah, our underpaid nurses must be making a killing from doing their assigned hours for their normal pay. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, The Chief said: does that mean Howie and Ashies gongs are under threat?? You wish ! As do I . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, HeliX said: Would-be contacts of positive cases (were they not to test positive and subsequently isolate) might find it quite useful... Everyone is a potential positive case, and anyone worried should be treating anyone they deal with as such as chances are that at the moment they are positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, Ramseyboi said: Everyone is a potential positive case, and anyone worried should be treating anyone they deal with as such as chances are that at the moment they are positive. Yes, but having that confirmed and them isolating means they won't be in contact with any of the people they otherwise would have been in next 10 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, HeliX said: Would-be contacts of positive cases (were they not to test positive and subsequently isolate) might find it quite useful... How is it useful? It’s only useful to stop spread, the only way to stop spread is to stop people sharing the same breathing space, we aren’t going to be doing that, we don’t have any restrictions so what’s the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, Annoymouse said: How is it useful? It’s only useful to stop spread, the only way to stop spread is to stop people sharing the same breathing space, we aren’t going to be doing that, we don’t have any restrictions so what’s the point? The positive person isolating stops them from sharing the same breathing space as the people they otherwise would've shared it with. Yes, it won't catch everyone, but given spread is exponential, taking people out of the chain is a good thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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