thommo2010 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 35 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: There are still people on this Island who would happily have us living like that until (in their minds) the virus magically disappears. Which it won’t. They are the same people who are assisting our struggling local tourism & hospitality market by daubing the hashtag #plagueisland all over Twitter. They are the single biggest collection of self centred whoppers I’ve ever had the misfortune of encountering. Their age demographic is telling. Australia and New Zealand will be in the position we are in whenever they decide to open it is just kicking the problem down the road, I watch a comedian who is from Australia and he has been vocal about the lockdowns, no real government support, governments deciding who is and who isn't an essential business, exactly where we were 12 or so months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Australia and New Zealand will be in the position we are in whenever they decide to open it is just kicking the problem down the road, I watch a comedian who is from Australia and he has been vocal about the lockdowns, no real government support, governments deciding who is and who isn't an essential business, exactly where we were 12 or so months ago. Correct. They’ve learned nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Australia and New Zealand will be in the position we are in whenever they decide to open it is just kicking the problem down the road, I watch a comedian who is from Australia and he has been vocal about the lockdowns, no real government support, governments deciding who is and who isn't an essential business, exactly where we were 12 or so months ago. Their vaccination rates are much lower than here. Going to be a while for them yet to get into a position to 'let it rip' with minimal damage. It was said a year ago, possibly by me, that we shouldn't start judging how well individual countries and leaders have done until it's all over. The NZ PM has been hailed as a hero, at least at the start. How will she be seen this time next year when the rest of the world are getting on with it and they're still having lockdowns when a single person swabs positive. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, wrighty said: Their vaccination rates are much lower than here. Going to be a while for them yet to get into a position to 'let it rip' with minimal damage. It was said a year ago, possibly by me, that we shouldn't start judging how well individual countries and leaders have done until it's all over. The NZ PM has been hailed as a hero, at least at the start. How will she be seen this time next year when the rest of the world are getting on with it and they're still having lockdowns when a single person swabs positive. And that is my point Wrighty, as and when they have the vaccination up to whatever rate they need they will still have a load of cases, if they are going for this eradication then god knows how it will all pan out for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, wrighty said: Their vaccination rates are much lower than here. Their vaccine rollout has been an abject failure. The messaging around the AZ vaccine has been utterly hopeless and self harming and they've screwed up on orders and deliveries of pfizer. Its underway a bit better now but at the same time they've had troops on the streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I'm really glad people are using the term doom covern. Apparently you aren't taking it seriously if you aren't cowering away most of the time, only going out in full ppe and wetting yourself about our precious children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, wrighty said: Their vaccination rates are much lower than here. Going to be a while for them yet to get into a position to 'let it rip' with minimal damage. It was said a year ago, possibly by me, that we shouldn't start judging how well individual countries and leaders have done until it's all over. The NZ PM has been hailed as a hero, at least at the start. How will she be seen this time next year when the rest of the world are getting on with it and they're still having lockdowns when a single person swabs positive. Do you think they’ll have an ageing population crying like cunts on Twitter in two years time that it’s too soon, the health service can’t cope, they are all going to die horrible deaths hooked up to ventilators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: Do you think they’ll have an ageing population crying like cunts on Twitter in two years time that it’s too soon, the health service can’t cope, they are all going to die horrible deaths hooked up to ventilators? Don't know. I've spent time in Australia, and my impression of the people there is not as you describe - they're far closer in my experience to the stereotypical Aussie bloke who'll punch coronavirus in the face while not spilling his beer, rather than cowering indoors. But it was 18 years ago that I lived there. Times change. I've got a mate out there, I'll find out what the vibe is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, wrighty said: Don't know. I've spent time in Australia, and my impression of the people there is not as you describe - they're far closer in my experience to the stereotypical Aussie bloke who'll punch coronavirus in the face while not spilling his beer, rather than cowering indoors. But it was 18 years ago that I lived there. Times change. I've got a mate out there, I'll find out what the vibe is now. I'm an Australian citizen mate. I know Aussies. They won't stand for this shite I can tell you, not a fucking chance. Edited August 13, 2021 by Nom de plume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Anyone said: No , the private sector has done a good job over the last few years. Facilitated by government policies which have provided the environment for the private sector to flourish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh G Rection Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 8/10/2021 at 3:41 PM, AlanShimmin said: New cases: Down Active cases: Down Hospital cases: Down ICU cases: Down Doom merchants: Busy working out how to put a negative spin on it. Deaths: UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hugh G Rection said: Deaths: UP I would be extremely surprised to see the number of deaths go down 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, kevster said: I would be extremely surprised to see the number of deaths go down give ashie a chance, skelly is doing the maths for him Edited August 13, 2021 by WTF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Dearden Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 12 hours ago, Anyone said: I don’t think it matters that much who is CM. Economies tend to thrive in spite of , not because of government. In general government is an impediment to progress so the less of it the better. What they tend to do best is of little benefit to anyone. What do they do best ? Basically lie , botch a lot of things , blame anyone and grovel for a gong. I don't think this is right. I do agree that a dumb government can ruin the environment so that commercial business cannot function eg Venezuala or Zimbabwe. However, successful economies need wealth creating businesses (for us Financial Services and Gaming and a small contribution from manufacturing) and these need a suitable environment which means transport links, property rights, educated workforce, legal and technological infrastructure, employment law, stable money supply and exchange rate, low crime and so on - these all require a functioning government. Thus, a thriving economy is a partnership between businesses which produce wealth and government which creates the right environment for the businesses to thrive. I am not suggesting that the Isle of Man is perfect, far from it, I can think of many unresolved issues but the fact that the economy has done well for many years must mean that this partnership has been reasonably successful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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