Gaz Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Hi all, what forms do I need to fill in to travel to iom please, being told all sorts and getting nowhere. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hugh G Rection said: "I am a 23 year-old male. Healthy, smoke 5-10 a day and do a bit of exercise here and there. I wouldn’t personally have it if I was 23 and otherwise healthy, I see lots of pushing the vaccine on the belief it protects others and that you’re being selfish if you don’t have it, but there is a huge lack of scientific data to support that. Without question it would definitely reduce your own risk of ending up in hospital with Covid but don’t have it for others, it’s something you need to want to do for yourself, as for long term effects? (Perfectly rational thought at such a young age) Nobody actually knows until it finishes the trials/testing in 2023, it’s had emergency approval after all. I’m not some sort of anti covid nut job but I do find the level of public compliance with the vaccine absolutely staggering. Edited August 16, 2021 by Annoymouse 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 You need lots of people to have it so that when you fall off your bike and break your arm or get cancer the hospital isn't full of covid patients. The 'its only authorised for emergency use' is a nonsense argument, there's been a fucking emergency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Gaz said: Hi all, what forms do I need to fill in to travel to iom please, being told all sorts and getting nowhere. Thanks https://covid19.gov.im/travel/travel-to-the-isle-of-man/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 https://www.visitisleofman.com/visitor-information/coronavirus-information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: You need lots of people to have it so that when you fall off your bike and break your arm or get cancer the hospital isn't full of covid patients. The 'its only authorised for emergency use' is a nonsense argument, there's been a fucking emergency. So I assume you’d have the vaccine at any age then? Do you have a cut off point where you don’t think it would be worthwhile? We’ve just the hit peak transmission and the hospital isn’t full of 16-30 year olds dying in hospital with Covid. The vaccine isn’t compulsory and I think people have forgotten that, you have to make an informed choice and be happy with that decision, you can always decide to have the vaccine at a later date (such as when the trials are complete) but you cant have it removed once it’s in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Annoymouse said: So I assume you’d have the vaccine at any age then? Do you have a cut off point where you don’t think it would be worthwhile? We’ve just the hit peak transmission and the hospital isn’t full of 16-30 year olds dying in hospital with Covid. The vaccine isn’t compulsory and I think people have forgotten that, you have to make an informed choice and be happy with that decision, you can always decide to have the vaccine at a later date (such as when the trials are complete) but you cant have it removed once it’s in. Hmmm. I'm pretty sure we haven't got close. The next two winters are gonna be mega. I have no idea what you're scared of. Vaccines work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Barlow said: Your MHK namesake is 61. And I'm not 64. Poor taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 4 hours ago, P.K. said: I think that is very disrespectful towards an ex-MHK who was one of the very few who was not in it for personal gain. You should be ashamed of yourself. Sanctimony is back. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, P.K. said: And I'm not 64. Poor taste. Which is almost an anagram of prostate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: So I assume you’d have the vaccine at any age then? Do you have a cut off point where you don’t think it would be worthwhile? We’ve just the hit peak transmission and the hospital isn’t full of 16-30 year olds dying in hospital with Covid. The vaccine isn’t compulsory and I think people have forgotten that, you have to make an informed choice and be happy with that decision, you can always decide to have the vaccine at a later date (such as when the trials are complete) but you cant have it removed once it’s in. There are no more trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gladys said: Which is almost an anagram of prostate. But is an anagram of 'A rote post' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Hmmm. I'm pretty sure we haven't got close. The next two winters are gonna be mega. I have no idea what you're scared of. Vaccines work. My only concern is with the booster jab being recommended to be different to the original vaccine, I’d rather not have a cocktail, but I’ll save that for the vaccine thread. If was a healthy 16-30 I wouldn’t be rushing to have the vaccine, society has helped push vaccination by shaming those who’ve not had it and label them as selfish, thanks to the whole ‘it’s to help others not yourself’ like it’s some sort of world war sacrifice. Any long term issues are completely unknown, what I’m seeing is a very blurred line appearing, in that they can’t they can’t tell if it’s the vaccine causing blood clots for example or if it’s actually Covid causing them, I think we’ll see this happening more and more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Happier diner said: There are no more trials. Where have you heard or seen that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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