quilp Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Doctor John Campbell narrating the first data out of South Africa about Omicron... 15mins, some good news at the end. Found it very informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 We've found them! We've found Ashford's 'friend' 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Recent research into CVST (cerebral vein sinus thrombosis) occurrence following vaccination is revealing. Should the jabs be aspirated? In cases where the vaccine has entered a vein, severe illness has presented with 412 deaths as a result. By drawing back on the syringe (aspirating) after putting the needle in, the injector can tell if the needle has entered a vein, something, as the research points out, you don't want as the vaccine is introduced in quantity into the bloodstream. Once again Dr. John explains it clearly... https://youtu.be/D6hUoosMOuU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Well then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Very balanced Sky News nowadays. Yesterday they had a story from one of their science correspondents saying Omicron would be a disaster and one from another saying things would be just fine. And that I'm afraid is what passes for 'balance' in most media nowadays. Let's not bother to evaluate the information, especially if the result is "We don't know". Let's just put up what we see as two extreme views and blather about letting people decide when we're not giving them to information to do so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Roxanne said: Damn. He was gazing into my eyes when he said it too. Was that the one with astigmatism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, quilp said: Recent research into CVST (cerebral vein sinus thrombosis) occurrence following vaccination is revealing. Should the jabs be aspirated? In cases where the vaccine has entered a vein, severe illness has presented with 412 deaths as a result. By drawing back on the syringe (aspirating) after putting the needle in, the injector can tell if the needle has entered a vein, something, as the research points out, you don't want as the vaccine is introduced in quantity into the bloodstream. Once again Dr. John explains it clearly... https://youtu.be/D6hUoosMOuU Not quite as bad as you think, 'only' 73 of those 412 incidents resulted in deaths. And as Dr Campbell pointed out, the risk of such incidents is much higher from catching Covid that from vaccination. One of the problems with the reporting of side effects has been that the (rare) incidence of them has been compared with that in a population under normal circumstances. But that isn't the situation here, where there's a widely spread disease, which vaccination protects against and even more important protects against severe forms of. A pre-Covid population isn't the right thing to compare with because that can't (and doesn't) exist any longer. (That isn't ignoring his point about aspirating when doing injections, but that's got wider implications. It may help explain why we saw similar levels of the same side effects with other vaccines though). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 41 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Well then.. To be honest if I got a negative pcr test meaning I wasn't then stuck indoors for 10 days I'd be over the moon, not paying money to send it to privte labs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, Roxanne said: This is a reason why I am 100% certain in my choice of not tuning in. Best thing to do to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, thommo2010 said: To be honest if I got a negative pcr test meaning I wasn't then stuck indoors for 10 days I'd be over the moon, not paying money to send it to privte labs Meaning you'd be willingly spreading it in the community? I don't get the sending it private, but if I had symptoms and had positive LFDs still, I'd keep isolating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Meaning you'd be willingly spreading it in the community? I don't get the sending it private, but if I had symptoms and had positive LFDs still, I'd keep isolating. Well I wouldn't be willingly spreading it as my test had come back negative, over the past couple of months I've had a few runny noses, sore throats, head aches if I'd stayed at home on every occasion I wouldn't have left ghe house in 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, thommo2010 said: Well I wouldn't be willingly spreading it as my test had come back negative, over the past couple of months I've had a few runny noses, sore throats, head aches if I'd stayed at home on every occasion I wouldn't have left ghe house in 3 months. Isn't the point that the PCR should be showing the positive? @rachomicswhat's the odds on multiple positive LFD but negative PCR? Edited December 3, 2021 by NoTailT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomadic Raptor Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Had a lovely world do tonight and then a very enjoyable trip to horse and plough it was very busy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Well then.. The fucking Doom Coven in action. Tests aren't perfect... who would have guessed! *world explodes* 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just arrived back into Manchester using the transfer within 24 hrs route. No one checked any paperwork ! QR codes or the like . No one. !!! A automatic machine checked my image/passport and that was it. The check in desk in Madeira had a quick glance , didnt need to see my NHS vaccination certificate so all a bit pointless really if they dont check. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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