Ramseyboi Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Danoo said: You are always going to create variants, whether you let it rip or hide it away in a box for a while and then let it escape slowly. We have lived with endemic coronaviruses that mutate themselves into homeostasis for millenia, nothing different here. This one is very different my old bean. This one arrived during the era of 24 hour news and social media. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Regarding omicron, would we know about it if it weren't for genome sequencing? May seem like a stupid question, but it isn't really. We found out about the original SARS-CoV-2 from some observant doctors in Wuhan noticing a sudden uptick in unusual respiratory disease incidence with some different clinical features. The virus was then detected. For omicron we've done it in reverse. It's been sequenced, and the only difference so far is in the sequence of letters in its RNA. There hasn't been a noticeable increase in hospital admissions, or a difference in symptoms as far as I know. And perhaps, and I'm not trying to sound tin-foil-hat-flat-earth-nutcase here, the increase in cases is because more have been tested, worried that they've got the new strain? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, wrighty said: Regarding omicron, would we know about it if it weren't for genome sequencing? May seem like a stupid question, but it isn't really. We found out about the original SARS-CoV-2 from some observant doctors in Wuhan noticing a sudden uptick in unusual respiratory disease incidence with some different clinical features. The virus was then detected. For omicron we've done it in reverse. It's been sequenced, and the only difference so far is in the sequence of letters in its RNA. There hasn't been a noticeable increase in hospital admissions, or a difference in symptoms as far as I know. And perhaps, and I'm not trying to sound tin-foil-hat-flat-earth-nutcase here, the increase in cases is because more have been tested, worried that they've got the new strain? Speaking about noticing changes and testing more... do you know why the swabbing team are only swabbing cheeks and nostril now and not the back of the throat and nostril? Half a dozen people that I know have had PCR tests over the last couple of weeks, 4 of them with positive LFDs, all symptomatic, all of them received a negative PCR tests and all had a cheek swab rather than throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 If vaccinated people have mild symptoms of Omicron and are not that arsed about or put it down to a cold as with the time of year, I don’t think we (UK at present) would have noticed at all. There was always a prediction of more cases as the winter came around. I suppose now it’s a chance to galvanise support for the booster program and extend the yoofs vacination. As Delta is highly transmissible, I am struggling to fathom how Omicron is much more transmissible. I keep seeing news reports about a person or persons in quarantine hotels managing to catch/spread the new variant yet not being in physical contact and socially distanced (separate rooms) I guess the change in transmission may have alerted us to something being different to normal Rona but then again, we may just pass it off as winter again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Speaking about noticing changes and testing more... do you know why the swabbing team are only swabbing cheeks and nostril now and not the back of the throat and nostril? Half a dozen people that I know have had PCR tests over the last couple of weeks, 4 of them with positive LFDs, all symptomatic, all of them received a negative PCR tests and all had a cheek swab rather than throat. I had nose and throat done last Monday. Nose still isnt right lol Edited December 10, 2021 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Speaking about noticing changes and testing more... do you know why the swabbing team are only swabbing cheeks and nostril now and not the back of the throat and nostril? Half a dozen people that I know have had PCR tests over the last couple of weeks, 4 of them with positive LFDs, all symptomatic, all of them received a negative PCR tests and all had a cheek swab rather than throat. I have had six pCRs since this all began, and none have involved them putting anything anywhere near my mouth. All nose only 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: I had nose and throat done last Monday. Nose still isnt right lol I guess it just depends on who's swabbing you. Odd though that they're swabbing cheeks at all though. I wondered if they've changed tests obviously not if they did the back of your throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: I guess it just depends on who's swabbing you. Odd though that they're swabbing cheeks at all though. I wondered if they've changed tests obviously not if they did the back of your throat. Dont know as this was the first of any type of test I've had since all this kicked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: I have had six pCRs since this all began, and none have involved them putting anything anywhere near my mouth. All nose only The local one I had was nose and throat. Some others I had elsewhere were less thorough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 @Bankerare you easily confused? Six tests, never had my throat swabbed. What is confusing about that exactly? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I’m tests show vaccines 75 percent effective against symptomatic latest variant. So nothing to worry about. Let’s crack on eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Is there a manxforums christmas party this year? It's just that i have not heard much mention of it, i usually get an invite as part of my contract for posting on here. This year no mention. Nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Is there a manxforums christmas party this year? It's just that i have not heard much mention of it, i usually get an invite as part of my contract for posting on here. This year no mention. Nothing I’ve heard it’s in your mouth & everyone’s cu ….. Sorry, I’ve not seen it mentioned. Edited December 10, 2021 by Nom de plume 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Ramseyboi said: Six tests, never had my throat swabbed. What is confusing about that exactly? Probably wondering how well you know Ashford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Ramseyboi said: I have had six pCRs since this all began, and none have involved them putting anything anywhere near my mouth. All nose only Understandable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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