Out of the blue Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 A pragmatic approach from Alf that reflects what is likely to be already actually happening on the ground re. self testing. I would be surprised if many people from this point forward voluntarily inform the government about a positive test, however most responsible people will isolate themselves anyway. If you treat the public like responsible adults I am sure the government will be pleasantly surprised by the response. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Out of the blue said: A pragmatic approach from Alf that reflects what is likely to be already actually happening on the ground re. self testing. I would be surprised if many people from this point forward voluntarily inform the government about a positive test, however most responsible people will isolate themselves anyway. If you treat the public like responsible adults I am sure the government will be pleasantly surprised by the response. Like we used to when flu was around - my how I miss flu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, WTF said: we should have heard this 18 months ago. “Self manage your own health”? Did you really have to wait for someone to tell you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petefella Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Roxanne said: You just don’t get it do you. You’re so wrapped up in your indignation. To be fair you sound quite indignant. That’s a very long post. I will happily donate £200 to hospice should a negative forecast actually come true. But very few of them indeed have come true so far. That’s the reality. As I said I support Alf Cannan 100% on this. But certainly not on the Liverpool terminal. Edited December 20, 2021 by Petefella That’s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Passing Time said: He got the first graph completely wrong. mentioned 90k when the figures maxed out at around 80k 15th Dec was actually 102,000 cases according to data released today. Interesting that they didn't update the graphs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Roxanne said: Indeed. Instead it’s almost as if half the people have been hypnotised by the previous crew into believing that only three people could save them. it’s got more than a tinge of Stockholm syndrome about it. It was great to hear the CM gently praising but making the boundaries quite clear. I think it was the best briefing yet by a country mile. Has someone got a little Alf-crush? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: 15th Dec was actually 102,000 cases according to data released today. Interesting that they didn't update the graphs. Does it really matter? The only figures that now matter are hospital admissions. If the health service is not overwhelmed then there is no issue. 102,000 may of had a wet fart, but if nobody shat themselves then there's no problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny F Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Alf was brilliant but wtf was the ex CEO of enterprise doing presenting medical information, where was that useless cow Ewart, off on holiday again perhaps? Magson spoke very well too but I really hope her replacement lives on Island. Well done Captain Cannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Roxanne said: You just don’t get it do you. You’re so wrapped up in your indignation. You’re so cross you’ve lost sight of your logic. I think you’re right there Rox. This guy is pissed off in the situation he finds himself ( who wouldn’t be) but he’s lashing out at all and sundry. The Government is not responsible for COVID, it’s not even responsible for the economic damage it has inflicted. It has a responsibility to its citizens to protect them as best it can. If that means restrictions, lockdowns etc so be it, which will of course impact upon businesses. They have introduced a series of measures to mitigate the economic effects to business but there is no bottomless pit of money. Who would have envisaged a situation where Government were paying most of the wages of people employed in private businesses? It’s a very delicate balance to keep the economy going whilst looking after the public purse. The Government get very little praise when things are going well ( eg the zero tax regime) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Petefella said: To be fair you sound quite indignant. That’s a very long post. I will happily donate £200 to hospice should a negative forecast actually come true. But very few of them indeed have come true so far. That’s the reality. As I said I support Alf Cannan 100% on this. But certainly not on the Liverpool terminal. Hope this is a spare £200 once you have paid you of your Government loan Edited December 20, 2021 by The Voice of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petefella Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I think you’re right there Rox. This guy is pissed off in the situation he finds himself ( who wouldn’t be) but he’s lashing out at all and sundry. Sorry who have I lashed out please? I support Alf Cannan 100% on this and I will happily donate £200 to hospice if any of the negatives people are discussing as potential realities end up happening. Those negatives are killing businesses and peoples general wellbeing. Where I don’t support Cannan is his acceptance of £70 million plus of civil servants complete incompetence that we will be paying off for the next 50 or so years on top of the Covid debts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petefella Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: Hope this is a spare £200 once you have paid you of your Government loan I won’t be repaying any government Covid loan. Just like the £95 million in MUA debt we wrote off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) It's good to have someone at the top who can sound like he is in command of his brief and his team. I found this latest briefing to be much better, in that it contained no pretended expertise, no patronisation and sought questions with the willingness to give answers. Given that the current variant is bringing a rapidly developing situation and that the scientific analysis of the impact of infection is still in the early stages (even though early data looks encouraging), it is right that the Government takes a considered approach to mitigation and restriction. I hope that they have got this right but AC increases my confidence in Government, in this matter at least. Edited December 20, 2021 by joebean grammar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Disappointed Alf didn’t get his Sandhurst chop AKA knife hands out while covering the key parts. He also failed to say the mission twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Petefella said: I won’t be repaying any government Covid loan. I assume when you took out the loan it was on the clear understanding (as set out in the legal agreement) that it had to be repaid. As the old adage goes “Don’t sign anything you don’t understand “ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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