IOM Covid removing restrictions

[wrighty]

17 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

When i was banned for antisemitism i couldn't access the forum at all. No emojis, nothing.  Anyway, merry christmas, peace and love to one and all

He’s doing it again John 😂

[Happier diner]

20 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

When i was banned for antisemitism i couldn't access the forum at all. No emojis, nothing.  Anyway, merry christmas, peace and love to one and all

I like your honesty. You maybe could have more wisely said "alleged.....'

[the stinking enigma]

I wasn't anyway, i just made it up because i couldn't think of anything else to say

[the stinking enigma]

Though i was banned without access for another reason. The mods had to beg me to come back in the end.

[Happier diner]

1 hour ago, the stinking enigma said:

I wasn't anyway, i just made it up because i couldn't think of anything else to say

 

1 hour ago, the stinking enigma said:

Though i was banned without access for another reason. The mods had to beg me to come back in the end.

You certainly like to live on the edge

[thommo2010]

3 hours ago, finlo said:

Bit early in the day!

Is it early if you haven't stopped since last night haha

[Paulos The Great]

Much as I’d prefer to stay out of this thread this announcement today piqued my interest. So we’ve all accepted the restrictions and impacts of the last two years in order to protect the NHS and yet our NHS workers are now threatening to go on strike on us? So who was protecting who?

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=65113

Edited December 24, 2021 by Paulos The Great
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[Ramseyboi]

49 minutes ago, Paulos The Great said:

Much as I’d prefer to stay out of this thread this announcement today piqued my interest. So we’ve all accepted the restrictions and impacts of the last two years in order to protect the NHS and yet our NHS workers are now threatening to go on strike on us? So who was protecting who?

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=65113

One of the few sectors where staff haven’t taken a financial hit through this nightmare and now they, who have had regular and secure income throughout and even overtime when others have been struggling to keep a roof over their head or a business afloat want to strike over a pay rise.

Zero support from me I am afraid. 
 

I am only being that polite because it is Christmas.  They and the teachers need to look at the bigger picture ffs

[wrighty]

7 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

One of the few sectors where staff haven’t taken a financial hit through this nightmare and now they, who have had regular and secure income throughout and even overtime when others have been struggling to keep a roof over their head or a business afloat want to strike over a pay rise.

Zero support from me I am afraid. 
 

I am only being that polite because it is Christmas.  They and the teachers need to look at the bigger picture ffs

I don’t think staff want, or are threatening, to strike. That’s just the usual Union rhetoric. What staff do want is a comparable deal with the UK - either a 3 or 4% rise. The current offer, given the inflation rate, is an effective pay cut. 
 

Health Care Assistants are on about £10 an hour. Given the difficulty of the job, is it any surprise that recruitment and retention are challenging, when much more comfortable jobs are available in TK Maxx, for example. 
 

I understand how it might not seem right when businesses are struggling and others are worried about having to pay the rent, but it’s not an either/or situation.  Health workers here, particularly the lower paid, deserve a rise comparable with the UK.  As one of the higher paid I could do without, and would accept that if it meant proper rises lower down the scale.  There’s not many that think like that however, and in the socialist system that is the NHS we all get the same, as a percentage, generally. 

[immortalpuppet]

Redeployment at short notice, additional responsibility without new role profiles/job descriptions being updated, aswell as the rest of the BAU pressure cooker. Very much supportive of the NHS on this

[Paulos The Great]

56 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

One of the few sectors where staff haven’t taken a financial hit through this nightmare and now they, who have had regular and secure income throughout and even overtime when others have been struggling to keep a roof over their head or a business afloat want to strike over a pay rise.

Zero support from me I am afraid. 

I agree with Wrighty (above) it’s the Unions undermining the workers case really with badly thought out rhetoric. Its poor tactics as I think it will solicit the sort of response you gave from a lot of people. If they go on strike then basically the last 2 years of protecting the NHS has been a total waste of everyone’s time as we won’t have an NHS.

[snowman]

There's a recruitment crisis

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59785227

 

At the lower salaries it's a wonder people do the job

[P.K.]

1 hour ago, wrighty said:

I don’t think staff want, or are threatening, to strike. That’s just the usual Union rhetoric. What staff do want is a comparable deal with the UK - either a 3 or 4% rise. The current offer, given the inflation rate, is an effective pay cut. 
 

Health Care Assistants are on about £10 an hour. Given the difficulty of the job, is it any surprise that recruitment and retention are challenging, when much more comfortable jobs are available in TK Maxx, for example. 
 

I understand how it might not seem right when businesses are struggling and others are worried about having to pay the rent, but it’s not an either/or situation.  Health workers here, particularly the lower paid, deserve a rise comparable with the UK.  As one of the higher paid I could do without, and would accept that if it meant proper rises lower down the scale.  There’s not many that think like that however, and in the socialist system that is the NHS we all get the same, as a percentage, generally. 

As the cost of living is higher on the island surely chaining themselves to the UK rates is a negative move...?

[Paulos The Great]

25 minutes ago, snowman said:

There's a recruitment crisis

That’s private sector care too though where pay isn’t much better. Governments are walking a tricky line on all this now which I think explains Alf Cannans recent change of tone. If they aren’t careful NHS workers will end up thinking they’ve been conned, and businesses and employees who have suffered a lot will end up thinking they’ve been conned too. And therefore everyone will end up thinking they’ve been conned by what have been wartime like propaganda exercises to solicit public compliance. 

[P.K.]

1 minute ago, Paulos The Great said:

That’s private sector care too though where pay isn’t much better. Governments are walking a tricky line on all this now which I think explains Alf Cannans recent change of tone. If they aren’t careful NHS workers will end up thinking they’ve been conned, and businesses and employees who have suffered a lot will end up thinking they’ve been conned too. And therefore everyone will end up thinking they’ve been conned by what have been wartime like propaganda exercises to solicit public compliance. 

Solicit public compliance to what end...?