IOM Covid removing restrictions

[GD4ELI]

Just now, ManxTaxPayer said:

That's a good point. And if you do take the risk, you shouldn't bleat about it when things don't go quite as smoothly as you'd like. Take it on the chin and shut up. 

If you get COVID and aren't jabbed then I think you should pay for any treatment.

[Nomadic Raptor]

Those figures that are being posted 500+ lft positive is that a good thing out a bad thing?

[ManxTaxPayer]

That could be a slippery slope. 

[hissingsid]

The hospital numbers are still low so no need to panic although it is upsetting when young children get it they seem to be badly affected.

[Lost Login]

1 hour ago, hissingsid said:

Brexit was the right way to go and other countries are rapidly coming to this conclusion, we were the first brick out of the wall, one that was holding a lot of poorer countries up.   The E.U. family is not a happy one and I fully expect in the next decade that wall will collapse.

I disagree. Membership of the EU and the single market was not perfect. There were problems with it but not as many as some postulated as for many years it has been easy for the UK Government to blame the EU in respect of unpopular matters that were in fact within the UK's control. e.g. the UK could have been much stricter on immigration from the EU than in chose to be.  The reverse is now also happening with the Government claiming things that were nothing to do with the EU as a benefit of Brexit, e.g vaccine roll out, freeports. 

The leave side promised sun lit uplands, The UK held all the cards, the EU would be much harder hit, other countries would now be rushing to sign agreements with us. Well in the first year that has not really been the case and agreements that the UK have or about to sign seem pretty inconsequential or pretty damaging to parts of the UK. e,g. farmers in respect of Australia and New Zealand agreements.

What will decide if Brexit is a success is whether the UK public start to feel better off in their pocket for it. Some won't care but if in the medium term people feel they are financially worse off I expect that they will be happier to see closer alignment. That may also affect how other countries view leaving the EU.

It should be remembered that there is still a huge issue to solve re Northern Ireland and that full import controls and related paperwork only come in on 1st January which will again demonstrate how much more difficult it is to trade outside the single market.

The EU was not perfect but I expect that the UK will find that in due course that membership may have been a slightly worse option than being outside but the UK needed to leave to understand and accept that.

 

 

[Ramseyboi]

38 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

Those figures that are being posted 500+ lft positive is that a good thing out a bad thing?

Good thing as long as people aren’t ill with it

[Ramseyboi]

40 minutes ago, GD4ELI said:

If you get COVID and aren't jabbed then I think you should pay for any treatment.

If there is any, which there probably won’t be

[the stinking enigma]

I'm not overly keen on this  this war on the unvaxxed nonsense. I find it a bit disturbing to be honest

[Dave Hedgehog]

Amazing the difference a year makes. This time last year people shitting it over 2 cases. Now close to 600 in a day and barely an eyebrow is raised.

[2112]

10 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

Amazing the difference a year makes. This time last year people shitting it over 2 cases. Now close to 600 in a day and barely an eyebrow is raised.

Almost 12 months ago, Ex CM Quayle was being lauded and feted, and appearing on TV and the island being ‘Covid free’. Mind you, it didn’t last long.

[Omobono]

17 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Almost 12 months ago, Ex CM Quayle was being lauded and feted, and appearing on TV and the island being ‘Covid free’. Mind you, it didn’t last long.

And neither did he , !  Possibly  the worst ever ,   and left a  trail  of disasters in his wake  that we will be paying , for generations to come , 

[Ramseyboi]

New restrictions at the hospital.  Why?

[quilp]

Already sick and possibly immunocompromised, perhaps? Omicron is highly pathogenic. Although the signs are good, let's be sensible. 

[WTF]

3 minutes ago, quilp said:

Already sick and possibly immunocompromised, perhaps? Omicron is highly pathogenic. Although the signs are good, let's be sensible. 

i didn't appreciate the immunocompromised aspect of things up there until recently.

[Flyingfemme]

1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

Amazing the difference a year makes. This time last year people shitting it over 2 cases. Now close to 600 in a day and barely an eyebrow is raised.

Perhaps because a "case" is not a case? BC (Before covid) a case was understood as somebody showing definite signs of a disease, usually to the point of needing care or hospitalisation. Now a "case" is an identified infection that may, or may not, show any signs of illness.

We never had cold cases, or sniffles cases. A PCR identified case may actually be recovered but still having residue of virus, dead virus or bits of virus.

The vulnerable and immunocompromised need to be protected from all sorts of things, not just covid, while the rest of us get on with running, and maintaining life.