Ramseyboi Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Anyone else hearing from people who are testing positive from an LFT to the throat who were negative from a nostril? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Anyone else hearing from people who are testing positive from an LFT to the throat who were negative from a nostril? Yes, and strangely one nostril positive and the other one negative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx Resident Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Perhaps my point wasn’t clear, to remove the isolation rules and let businesses function properly, say in TT fortnight, more data relating to the people currently isolating at home now must be helpful?. Vaccination rates may be high and hospitalizations low but do we need the isolation rules?. If our data showed 90% are well enough to work and 10% need to be at home then we might perhaps start to get somewhere with lifting the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Manx Resident said: Perhaps my point wasn’t clear, to remove the isolation rules and let businesses function properly, say in TT fortnight, more data relating to the people currently isolating at home now must be helpful?. Vaccination rates may be high and hospitalizations low but do we need the isolation rules?. If our data showed 90% are well enough to work and 10% need to be at home then we might perhaps start to get somewhere with lifting the rules. Couldn’t agree more. Surely it is simple enough to put a questionnaire online and ask people to fill it in? I can’t see any data protection issues and I dont imagine there are many who wouldn’t be interested in the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, HeliX said: More UK data than SA for applicability to here. Omicron has been circulating in the UK for over a month officially, probably several months unofficially, no spike in hospitalisation rate. As of two days ago the London covid hospitalisation rate has gone up 53%. The overall increase in the UK seems to be around 40%. There are always going to be people who need to be hospitalised due to covid. Thanks to the vaccine, many don't become that ill. However when you have a large percentage of the population who are infected, you're going to see an increase in vulnerable people also being infected (many despite their best efforts) and ending up in hospital. You're also going to see an increase in the unvaxxed in hospital due to covid. How some people don't see this is beyond me. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Anyone else hearing from people who are testing positive from an LFT to the throat who were negative from a nostril? No! Why would you shove it down your throat when leaflet says swab your nose? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zarley said: As of two days ago the London covid hospitalisation rate has gone up 53%. The overall increase in the UK seems to be around 40%. There are always going to be people who need to be hospitalised due to covid. Thanks to the vaccine, many don't become that ill. However when you have a large percentage of the population who are infected, you're going to see an increase in vulnerable people also being infected (many despite their best efforts) and ending up in hospital. You're also going to see an increase in the unvaxxed in hospital due to covid. How some people don't see this is beyond me. You will also, obviously, see an increase in people going in for non COVID reasons who just happen to produce a positive test and otherwise would have had no idea they had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 42 minutes ago, manxman34 said: How exactly are we meat to 'prepare'? Is he going to prepare by putting HEPA filters in classrooms and public buildings and instituting other simple mitigations? Or do we just stock up on toilet roll? I'm not sure how having HEPA filters in schools is going to help with the transmission of infection. Not with everyone being so close together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Happier diner said: I'm not sure how having HEPA filters in schools is going to help with the transmission of infection. Not with everyone being so close together As you write. You are not sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: You will also, obviously, see an increase in people going in for non COVID reasons who just happen to produce a positive test and otherwise would have had no idea they had it. Which then puts further strain on the health service as these people who "had no idea they had it" will still have to be cared for away from other patients, many of whom will be vulnerable. And besides, recent iomg data shows the recent covid patients in hospital were there because of, not "with", covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Anyone else hearing from people who are testing positive from an LFT to the throat who were negative from a nostril? Why would someone even try that? Is that some sort of social media hype type thing? Only a matter of time if that carries on that someone drops the swab down their throat and causes more issues than Covid would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I'm not sure how having HEPA filters in schools is going to help with the transmission of infection. Not with everyone being so close together It will help. Surely you've seen this graphic before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I'm not sure how having HEPA filters in schools is going to help with the transmission of infection. Not with everyone being so close together There is plenty of information out there which clearly explains how HEPA filters help in schools and hospitals. Not just for covid. I suppose a link would help but rarely does anyone follow them so little point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: You will also, obviously, see an increase in people going in for non COVID reasons who just happen to produce a positive test and otherwise would have had no idea they had it. Well if they had any common sense they would have done an LFT before attending hospital in accordance with requirements 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: Is that some sort of social media hype type thing? Of course it is. The sensationalism helps with the post count and likes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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