Lost Login Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 14 hours ago, HeliX said: A couple of days after Boxing Day and a couple of days after NYE/NYD? Surely there's an obvious second possibility... There are several sensible reasons for peaks. One is as you state correlation to people mixing. Socially people mix at weekends more or events like Christmas so with an incubation period of x days you might expect to see a peak of x days after a weekend etc. People who test +ve with an LFT at a weekend may only report the result when told to by work. People may also hold off reporting over a weekend. If they were going to be mainly at home on Saturday & Sunday they might wait they have done a second test on a Sunday evening or Monday morning before reporting in the hope it was a false +ve etc so they can go to work. It may be a requirement to undertake an LFT each work day. People may not simply choose to do at a weekend if they are not work or are having a fairly quiet weekend. People could be swinging the lead. I have anecdotal reports of Govt workers reporting that they were positive for Covid the day the rules changed. I would have thought the numbers were not great as surely workers realise there is the real possibility they could catch for real a few weeks later which might make you look a bit stupid when you become the first person to allegedly catch covid twice in a 3 week period! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Interesting article here: BBC News - Is this NHS crisis really worse than ones before? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59909860 Edit: I think this is the article that wrighty refers to. Edited January 8, 2022 by Andy Onchan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I know of more cases this time round than any other previous ‘wave’ and most people I speak to seem to say the same. I think the true figures must be far higher than they actually are and that’s a good thing because we aren’t seeing any real issues, a few weeks and it should all be over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: I know of more cases this time round than any other previous ‘wave’ and most people I speak to seem to say the same. I think the true figures must be far higher than they actually are and that’s a good thing because we aren’t seeing any real issues, a few weeks and it should all be over. I can say the same and because we're being asked to test regularly I think there's a lot of more asymptomatic than symptomatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 11 hours ago, wrighty said: Take it to the extreme. Imagine all the doctors and nurses, and paramedics, are isolating at home due to positive LFTs. Most of them are well, but rules say 7 days at home. You turn up at A&E to find the doors shut and the lights off. Sort yourself out, best of luck. Perhaps in that scenario, it might be better to allow the staff back to work after 5 days, or 3 days, or when they feel up to it and scrap the tests. Does that make sense? It does make sense. There are quite a number of organisations that have a contingency plan for requesting that key staff get release from mandatory isolation so long as they are not unwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Roxanne said: Come back DILLIGAF, all is forgiven. Only if he brings Neil Down with him - I miss them both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 32 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: I know of more cases this time round than any other previous ‘wave’ and most people I speak to seem to say the same. I think the true figures must be far higher than they actually are and that’s a good thing because we aren’t seeing any real issues, a few weeks and it should all be over. I hope that will be the case and would be surprised if we are not in a better place in a few weeks time. Schools going back obviously is one area which might result in the infection spreading again but amongst adults January has traditionally been a quiet month for socialising so that will help stop the spread. I also have a feeling that previously LFT's were mainly used when people thought they might have covid. I get the impression now many more people are using to test before they go out socialising, to work etc as a preventative measure which will also assist in reducing the spread. I think there are plenty of reasons to be optimistic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Happier diner said: It does make sense. There are quite a number of organisations that have a contingency plan for requesting that key staff get release from mandatory isolation so long as they are not unwell. But such a mechanism isn't available yet is it? Not that I disagree with the thought process, just find it odd that an organisation would have a contingency plan for something that is not actually available. If the point comes that organisations will be able to ask for dispensations, it is likely that the whole framework will have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gladys said: But such a mechanism isn't available yet is it? Not that I disagree with the thought process, just find it odd that an organisation would have a contingency plan for something that is not actually available. If the point comes that organisations will be able to ask for dispensations, it is likely that the whole framework will have changed. No it isn't. That's correct. If you note I used the word 'request'. If it was life or death I imagine such requests would be granted. Being the lesser of 2 evils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Banker said: FFS you’re worse than Ramsey Boi for posting absolute shite & slagging everyone off who doesn’t agree with you I think the pubs did well last night! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Being the lesser of 2 evils. Here's a crap joke to lighten the mood 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craggy_steve Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, Gladys said: But such a mechanism isn't available yet is it? Not that I disagree with the thought process, just find it odd that an organisation would have a contingency plan for something that is not actually available. If the point comes that organisations will be able to ask for dispensations, it is likely that the whole framework will have changed. If they're not symptomatic, and their employer consents, I can't see a big problem in allowing the Positives to return to work with the condition that they wear an unvented FFP3 / N99 mask at all times and observe good hygiene (hand washing, yada yada...) until their infection has passed. Obviously that's not going to be appropriate for all employers or all job roles, but it could significantly reduce the numbers stuck at home when they could be working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 59 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Agreed. Only from a straw poll from my nearest and dearest. I’m currently running around for 8/9 people, most coming around to the end of isolation and the only symptom seems to be sleeping a lot. But that could also be a short term depressive effect of lack of contact. Was speaking to a woman I know from when I worked on the phone yesterday and she says she's had it twice and she's had hangovers worse than covid. Not too sure what that says about her, I didn't know her socially. I'm trying to carry on as normal - was out Wednesday and Friday - but as an obese asthmatic in his 60's I'm not overly keen on trying it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Only if he brings Neil Down with him - I miss them both Neil's fully lost the plot. See him posting on FB occasionally that the jab is a communist depopulation tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Roxanne said: I get mixed up with who they all are. They’ve all merged into one big huge troll with weird names. I didn’t even know Neil Down was a real person. He worked with me for a few years a good while back. Seemed a nice bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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