Numbnuts Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gladys said: Could the Chester Street facility not be used? It is looking likely that vaxes will reduce, as will PCR testing, so perhaps re-route the vax exit to back out the front door, keeping the back area and door for PCR, or vice versa. Far to sensible solution. Seems obvious to me that this would be the perfect answer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 They could use PCR just for admissions, and submit them for sequencing as part of global variant surveillance, and let everyone else crack on with LFDs really. Some reputable people have been suggesting that for some time now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Did I imagine reading somewhere local that someone was calling to test waste water for a more accurate picture of who has what/surveillance testing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, immortalpuppet said: Did I imagine reading somewhere local that someone was calling to test waste water for a more accurate picture of who has what/surveillance testing? No, you’ve not imagined it. But it’s not a who has whatsurveillance just a general incidence thing, perhaps because those asking for it don’t think the rest of us can be trusted to self report LFT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, immortalpuppet said: Did I imagine reading somewhere local that someone was calling to test waste water for a more accurate picture of who has what/surveillance testing? Some of the more vocal on Twitter have asked for this. How it is more accurate, I don't know. It would be useful if infection levels were low, I suppose, or to monitor background levels when all other testing ceases. But I can't see the point now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 See IKEA amongst others are reducing sick pay for the unvaccinated if it’s Covid connected. In Italy anyone over 50 will need to be vaccinated or lose job. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59930206 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, immortalpuppet said: Did I imagine reading somewhere local that someone was calling to test waste water for a more accurate picture of who has what/surveillance testing? Isle of Man, with being ern, an Island and a reasonably static population with limited movement, could have been a world leader in using this technology. The sewers are well mapped too. It's a bit 1984ish, or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Relax, the new years day dips were popular this year. We'd have known by now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Relax, the new years day dips were popular this year. We'd have known by now Did you not see some of the creatures emerging from the sea at Peel on NYD? All the new variants are well amongst us now... 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Gladys said: Some of the more vocal on Twitter have asked for this. How it is more accurate, I don't know. It would be useful if infection levels were low, I suppose, or to monitor background levels when all other testing ceases. But I can't see the point now. I tend to agree. What it is useful for is picking up new outbreaks early or identifying the presence of a new variant. There may also be some use in picking up a spike of cases, but there's not really the accuracy to estimate levels in population that I can see. You also need good technical skills and knowledge of from where the wastewater comes, and probably also a good record of past data. The main advantage is that it gives early notification - people will be shedding virus even before they know they have it - but to take advantage of that you need a government that can act quick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, immortalpuppet said: Did I imagine reading somewhere local that someone was calling to test waste water for a more accurate picture of who has what/surveillance testing? Yes. It seems to be doing the rounds. I don't know what people think it would tell us. The situation is patently obvious. We have had a big spike in Omicron infection which seems to have plateaued and now appears to be dropping. We don't need to start analysing sewage to tell us that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I tend to agree. What it is useful for is picking up new outbreaks early or identifying the presence of a new variant. There may also be some use in picking up a spike of cases, but there's not really the accuracy to estimate levels in population that I can see. You also need good technical skills and knowledge of from where the wastewater comes, and probably also a good record of past data. The main advantage is that it gives early notification - people will be shedding virus even before they know they have it - but to take advantage of that you need a government that can act quick. Act quick...and do what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: We don't need to start analysing sewage to tell us that. No shit Sherlock. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: The main advantage is that it gives early notification - people will be shedding virus even before they know they have it - but to take advantage of that you need a government that can act quick. Need to stop worrying about new variants and start focusing on the treatment of those that get sick. We need to get out of the pandemic mentality and start having an endemic approach. Because that's what it is now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, James Blonde said: No shit Sherlock. No need to start taking the pi$$ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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