0bserver Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, Gladys said: Beyond 'get a grip' for 5, what would you suggest? The fear is very real for some people, many of whom are rational and intelligent. Perhaps some kind of helpline for them to call? I do thinks it's a genuine issue and people do need some form of help. As you've said, we've all seen otherwise rational people reduced to foaming at the mouth jingoistic wrecks. 21 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: Scrapping the daily and weekly numbers is going to send some of them into a complete tailspin. Once doom-o meter goes they’ll have nothing tangible to fixate on and will then have to start trawling Google for bad news to re-post. You're right it will! We've already seen that to a degree when they scrapped the daily death figures and moved to the weekly format - some doomers started using words like 'the claimed figure' etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, 0bserver said: Perhaps some kind of helpline for them to call? I do thinks it's a genuine issue and people do need some form of help. As you've said, we've all seen otherwise rational people reduced to foaming at the mouth jingoistic wrecks. You're right it will! We've already seen that to a degree when they scrapped the daily death figures and moved to the weekly format - some doomers started using words like 'the claimed figure' etc. Your last para confirms the suggestion in the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 The Twitter mob led by Dudley are getting really worked up at thought of less restrictions when they want more, predicting more deaths etc! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Do you follow me on twitter Banker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Do you follow me on twitter Banker? No , I follow most of politicians plus see lots of others feed including some of your tweets! Some of yours are straight to point! Edited February 3, 2022 by Banker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 And meanwhile the EU is extending the use of Digital Covid Passports until June 2023. And England, and IoM were very lucky when they abandoned most restrictions. It was a gamble. Lots of places in Europe have as good vaccination record and levels. But each country has had a different epidemic profile, number of waves, types of restrictions, number of cases and deaths. More, it was a gamble by Johnson. And his judgement isn’t renowned for being good. We've been very lucky. Omicron being the latest wave and squeezing out other varieties has been part of that. Thats not to say I support the current testing regime for travellers, or the daily statistics being continued for any longer than necessary. But it’s necessary whilst Covid is so prevalent, and in different strains, very close by. Im triple vaxxed. In 4 weeks I’ll have had my booster 4th dose. Filling out forms and getting tests to travel aren’t exactly huge inconveniences. If that helps keep a lid I don’t strongly object, for a few more months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, John Wright said: And meanwhile the EU is extending the use of Digital Covid Passports until June 2023. And England, and IoM were very lucky when they abandoned most restrictions. It was a gamble. Lots of places in Europe have as good vaccination record and levels. But each country has had a different epidemic profile, number of waves, types of restrictions, number of cases and deaths. More, it was a gamble by Johnson. And his judgement isn’t renowned for being good. We've been very lucky. Omicron being the latest wave and squeezing out other varieties has been part of that. Thats not to say I support the current testing regime for travellers, or the daily statistics being continued for any longer than necessary. But it’s necessary whilst Covid is so prevalent, and in different strains, very close by. Im triple vaxxed. In 4 weeks I’ll have had my booster 4th dose. Filling out forms and getting tests to travel aren’t exactly huge inconveniences. If that helps keep a lid I don’t strongly object, for a few more months. I didn't have you down as one of the Doomers. We weren't lucky, South Africa had already proven that Omicron is mild. You can have all the restrictions you like but, much like France, they can make no difference. https://news.yahoo.com/shock-report-lockdowns-had-little-140000538.html 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, 0bserver said: The minimum outcomes from the Cannan briefing will hopefully be: 1) All travel and border restrictions 2) The end of quarantine/isolation for positive covid cases 3) The ending of the supply of LFDa 4) The scrapping of the daily covid numbers and the weekly surveillance report 5) Announcing some form of help for those struggling to wean themselves off the daily numbers/doom and gloom merchants. 6) scrapping all advice in relation to face masks. 1) Agreed 2) Agreed 3) No. Still provide, but charge £5 per test. Only those that are really needed will be taken and reported. 4) No. Due to 3 above, numbers will plummet giving the doom covern a sense of relief. 5) Not necessary due to 4 above. 6) Just scrap all masks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, 0bserver said: I didn't have you down as one of the Doomers. We weren't lucky, South Africa had already proven that Omicron is mild. You can have all the restrictions you like but, much like France, they can make no difference. https://news.yahoo.com/shock-report-lockdowns-had-little-140000538.html Im not a doomer. And omicron in SA and with their health system, hadn’t been around long enough to draw any conclusion other than “highly infectious”. Im not suggesting the French, German, Austrian, Spanish, or even AUS & NZ methods of dealing are any better. I’m recognising that the epidemic has a different profile in different countries. And expressing my view that it’s better to jam on the anchors and lock down fast and early and to exit in a measured manner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craggy_steve Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Alf says it's all over from end March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Its been over for months, just lots of people hadn't realised. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, craggy_steve said: Alf says it's all over from end March. Jesus, you and Dudley are gonna have to find something else to complain about😲 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 It's movement in the right direction but it's far too slow. All of these measures should be scrapped from midnight tonight, not 31st March. It gives the Doomers too much time to ambush them being scrapped. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) Listened to the briefing. That's alright that I reckon, drop everything outside the ordinary work of the health service when it comes to illness by the end of March. He knows some people remain in 2020 so he's giving them some time to get their shit together. Henrietta spoke of the endemic situation, says we'll have fluctuations but should stay at a relatively low level of transmission. I hope she's right, but I suspect another wave yet, probably not long into April, as that's when the antibody waning of the boosters should be started to make an effect (to be clear this does not mean, as some people claim, that the vaccine stops working). Wonder how many people over 60 still haven't had a vaccine. They should probably do that. I think if I were manx care I'd put a little team of empathetic people together and go out and find them, talk - and listen - to them directly. Edited February 3, 2022 by TheTeapot 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: He knows some people remain in 2020 so he's giving them some time to get their shit together. But that's their problem. They now need to adopt to society, not the other way round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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