Banker Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 36 minutes ago, 0bserver said: After spending 3 years telling us all how at risk they are, it's now amazing to see how many old people are shuffling round Strand Street coughing into the air and blowing their snot rags all over the show. It’s also amazing how many public sector workers are out & about with no symptoms but enjoying another 7 days off in sun on full pay !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Banker said: It’s also amazing how many public sector workers are out & about with no symptoms but enjoying another 7 days off in sun on full pay !! Could be wrong but a lot of workplaces are mandating that staff must not attend the office/workplace if they test positive. At the same time there are now no restrictions on going about your business. I have no issues with that, just wish people might take a bit more care with personal hygiene. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, 0bserver said: it's now amazing to see how many old people are shuffling round Strand Street coughing into the air and blowing their snot rags all over the show. Cruise ship arrived, has it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, Sheldon said: Cruise ship arrived, has it? No they're home grown ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Youaintseenme said: Same in private sector. If company policy is not to go to work but there are no restrictions to general life what do you expect people to do? Be responsible? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 hours ago, HeliX said: People have vulnerable relatives. They do, we all do, in the main but..... # They know the risks. Its a free world, stop making relatives take precautions for their near and dear. Helix, Don't you understand how far off the mark you are with your light touch to death and destruction via a motorbike "race" and your totally opposite acceptance / opinion on Covid? Maybe if we could glam up the deaths from Covid on the island? Say, send the near dead from Covid to cannons to be splattered all over the bottom of Bray Hill? More sporting???? Would that make Covid deaths less or more acceptable to you? I am really struggling with your morality for a woke. Generally as an island community that went totally OVER THE FUCKING TOP with locking up people for Covid "Offences" to SAVE LIFE. We seen to have a very liberal attitude to the head removing, body splattering 5 gruesome deaths, and counting this year, that the TT organisers and fans are responsible for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: They do, we all do, in the main but..... # They know the risks. Its a free world, stop making relatives take precautions for their near and dear. Helix, Don't you understand how far off the mark you are with your light touch to death and destruction via a motorbike "race" and your totally opposite acceptance / opinion on Covid? Maybe if we could glam up the deaths from Covid on the island? Say, send the near dead from Covid to cannons to be splattered all over the bottom of Bray Hill? More sporting???? Would that make Covid deaths less or more acceptable to you? I am really struggling with your morality for a woke. Generally as an island community that went totally OVER THE FUCKING TOP with locking up people for Covid "Offences" to SAVE LIFE. We seen to have a very liberal attitude to the head removing, body splattering 5 gruesome deaths, and counting this year, that the TT organisers and fans are responsible for You've sure extrapolated a load of horseshit from me giving a second valid reason people are still using LFTs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Youaintseenme said: Same in private sector. If company policy is not to go to work but there are no restrictions to general life what do you expect people to do? But if there’s no free tests available the non symptoms people will just go in & get on with it, the private sector one’s getting full pay won’t go in but the self employed, tradesmen will because no pay! However I know a few larger private companies have been closely monitoring absences which will be taken into account for annual bonuses/pay rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 The reason Companies adopt these policies is mostly because having a shed load of people off at the same time is inconvenient at best, especially office workers who tend to share office equipment, phones etc and are generally confined in small spaces with inadequate ventilation it is easier to try and contain it by excluding a spreader. Also if they insisted they came to work knowing they were positive and someone caught it and croaked or were really ill there would be culpability claims etc. better safe than screwed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Central Scrutiniser Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 As a former naysayer that believed it was all over bar the shouting and if one is jabbed up then nothing to worry about, I have had my arse well and truly kicked. Just had 2 days in bed after testing positve, up today but still feeling pretty dreadful. I'm 61 , triple jabbed and in reasonable nick for my age. I work part time in hospitality on zero hours contract so that's a weeks wage gone as well. It is still out there & can still make you quite ill. Just saying. 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Central Scrutiniser said: As a former naysayer that believed it was all over bar the shouting and if one is jabbed up then nothing to worry about, I have had my arse well and truly kicked. Just had 2 days in bed after testing positve, up today but still feeling pretty dreadful. I'm 61 , triple jabbed and in reasonable nick for my age. I work part time in hospitality on zero hours contract so that's a weeks wage gone as well. It is still out there & can still make you quite ill. Just saying. If it's any consolation, it would probably be a lot worse if you hadn't had your jabs. The vaccines are still providing good protection against serious illness, but much less so against infection or reinfection. And previous infection seems to be providing even less from the new sub-variants of Omicron. We've seen this pattern before with protection against infection dropping pretty fast against those who hadn't been boosted. It's quite worrying how many people have been badly hit this time, not least because it suggests that we will be seeing a lot more hospitalisation among the more vulnerable, though it's possible the Spring booster for over-70s etc will protect them more. It certainly suggests Manx Care would be wise to extend their Autumn booster to younger people (say over-50s) though I noticed the most recent death (announced a couple of weeks ago) was someone in their 40s. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Central Scrutiniser Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 For sure, a wake up call for me, Roger. Although I felt a bit ropey after all of my jabs, it was no comparison to how I feel now. As an aside, my son in law was admitted to Nobles for 12 days not so long ago. In his late 30's and triple jabbed. Had the family very worried at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: If it's any consolation, it would probably be a lot worse if you hadn't had your jabs. The vaccines are still providing good protection against serious illness, but much less so against infection or reinfection. And previous infection seems to be providing even less from the new sub-variants of Omicron. We've seen this pattern before with protection against infection dropping pretty fast against those who hadn't been boosted. It's quite worrying how many people have been badly hit this time, not least because it suggests that we will be seeing a lot more hospitalisation among the more vulnerable, though it's possible the Spring booster for over-70s etc will protect them more. It certainly suggests Manx Care would be wise to extend their Autumn booster to younger people (say over-50s) though I noticed the most recent death (announced a couple of weeks ago) was someone in their 40s. It is a reminder to wear NP2/3 masks in indoor shops at all times to protect yourself. plus stay outdoors as much as possible while the good weather is here 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, alpha-acid said: plus stay outdoors as much as possible while the good weather is here Good life advice in general. Be raining again soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 hours ago, alpha-acid said: It is a reminder to wear NP2/3 masks in indoor shops at all times to protect yourself. plus stay outdoors as much as possible while the good weather is here Maybe put a bucket on your head just in case too. You never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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