IOM Covid removing restrictions

[John Wright]

13 hours ago, Thereisnt said:

 

What you say here is so far from reality one must conclude you either have a vested interest or some intellectual challenges.

 

There have been 500,000 ‘yellow card’ reports of serious adverse effects to the VAERS database in the UK over the various vaccines.

 

Pfizers’ own figures, recently published in the peer reviewed ‘Vaccine’ journal now there has been 1 serious adverse effect in every 800 jabs.

 

(To put in context the Swine flu vaccine was withdrawn in 1976 when there was 1 case of Guillame Barré syndrome in every 100,000 doses - the Rotorvirus jab was withdrawn when serious bowel complications were found in every 10,000 jabs)

So, out of 151,000,000 doses of Covid there have been 500,000 yellow card reported events, so, it’s one report every 302.

But yellow card reports can be anything to feeling woozy, through pain at injection site, to flu like symptoms, to the very serious. They aren’t any indication of connection to the vaccine, either.

How many of the 500,000 are causally linked to the vaccine, and serious? It’s pretty simple, when you give 151 million doses to 50 million people, over a 2 year period, you’d expect some of the recipients, especially the older, sicker, vulnerable ones, to have serious events anyway. Whatever that number is must be subtracted, as must the low level “reactions”

[BillyNoMates]

China is exploding with cases since they eased restricions. kinda weird, aren't they all vaccinated? what if some new variant sweeps the globe again from there? lockdown again? no thanks.

[The Old Git]

5 minutes ago, BillyNoMates said:

China is exploding with cases since they eased restricions. kinda weird, aren't they all vaccinated?

Not with anything decent. 

[WTF]

27 minutes ago, BillyNoMates said:

China is exploding with cases since they eased restricions. kinda weird, aren't they all vaccinated? what if some new variant sweeps the globe again from there? lockdown again? no thanks.

looks like their own vaccine gave them all jaundice.

[0bserver]

35 minutes ago, BillyNoMates said:

China is exploding with cases since they eased restricions. kinda weird, aren't they all vaccinated? what if some new variant sweeps the globe again from there? lockdown again? no thanks.

It was always going to happen. 

Trying to stop and unstoppable virus using draconian lockdowns was never going to work. Like trying to catch soup in a collinder. 

There will be no future lockdowns as no government has the money to fund support. 

[NoTailT]

Apparently there's a reasonably known advocate on the Island that is still homeschooling their kids and insists on being able to plug in their own air filtering machine in court if attending a hearing through dreaded fear of the virus.

Some people really need to wake up.

Edited December 19, 2022 by NoTailT

[0bserver]

1 minute ago, NoTailT said:

Apparently there's a reasonably known advocate on the Island that is still homeschooling their kids and insists on being able to plug in their own air filtering machine in court if attending a hearing.

Some people really need to wake up.

I get the school bit. Have you seen the state of the island's education system?

[NoTailT]

Just now, 0bserver said:

I get the school bit. Have you seen the state of the island's education system?

I have but it's not as if that is their reasoning behind it!

[Banker]

3 hours ago, BillyNoMates said:

China is exploding with cases since they eased restricions. kinda weird, aren't they all vaccinated? what if some new variant sweeps the globe again from there? lockdown again? no thanks.

That’s the issue, low levels of vaccination particularly amongst the elderly & those who are vaccinated have the Chinese version & probably at least 12 months ago 

[Nom de plume]

OMG!

Is this still a thing? How are Jersey getting on? Did anyone make it out alive ..........

[Happier diner]

3 hours ago, BillyNoMates said:

China is exploding with cases since they eased restricions. kinda weird, aren't they all vaccinated? what if some new variant sweeps the globe again from there? lockdown again? no thanks.

Typical Chinese. Get vaccinated good and proper.  An hour later you need another dose. 

[Thereisnt]

10 hours ago, John Wright said:

So, out of 151,000,000 doses of Covid there have been 500,000 yellow card reported events, so, it’s one report every 302.

But yellow card reports can be anything to feeling woozy, through pain at injection site, to flu like symptoms, to the very serious. They aren’t any indication of connection to the vaccine, either.

How many of the 500,000 are causally linked to the vaccine, and serious? It’s pretty simple, when you give 151 million doses to 50 million people, over a 2 year period, you’d expect some of the recipients, especially the older, sicker, vulnerable ones, to have serious events anyway. Whatever that number is must be subtracted, as must the low level “reactions”

 

Undoubtedly many ‘yellow card’ reports will be ‘sore arm’ or ‘I feel woozy’. Others will be blood clots, others myocarditis and some death. Given it is accepted that only 10% of adverse effects are reported the more likely numbers are millions rather hundreds of 000’s. Either way Pfizers’ own figures, which are for 'life affecting serious adverse effects' are 1 in 800. Vaccination programs have never previously been allowed to continue with adverse effects in these proportions.

 

In the article below Dr Angus Dalgleish, Prof of Oncology at St George’s University in London, talks about the enormous spike in cancer since the vaccine program - also noticed by others in his field. He says “Seeing a recurrence of these cancers.. naturally makes me wonder if there is a common cause?” And goes on to say “I then noted that some of these patients were not having a normal pattern of relapse but rather an explosive relapse.. obviously I began to wonder whether the booster vaccines could be causing these..” Increasing numbers of doctors are saying similar:

 

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/other-cancer-specialists-agree-with-me-about-vaccine-harm-but-the-authorities-still-wont-listen

 

UK MP Andrew Bridgen has recently raised these and other serious issues in a a House of Commons debate about vaccine harms - references below:

 

https://www.andrewbridgen.com/news/list-supporting-references-used-vaccine-harms-debate-speech

 

 

[AcousticallyChallenged]

14 hours ago, Thereisnt said:

 

Undoubtedly many ‘yellow card’ reports will be ‘sore arm’ or ‘I feel woozy’. Others will be blood clots, others myocarditis and some death. Given it is accepted that only 10% of adverse effects are reported the more likely numbers are millions rather hundreds of 000’s. Either way Pfizers’ own figures, which are for 'life affecting serious adverse effects' are 1 in 800. Vaccination programs have never previously been allowed to continue with adverse effects in these proportions.

 

In the article below Dr Angus Dalgleish, Prof of Oncology at St George’s University in London, talks about the enormous spike in cancer since the vaccine program - also noticed by others in his field. He says “Seeing a recurrence of these cancers.. naturally makes me wonder if there is a common cause?” And goes on to say “I then noted that some of these patients were not having a normal pattern of relapse but rather an explosive relapse.. obviously I began to wonder whether the booster vaccines could be causing these..” Increasing numbers of doctors are saying similar:

 

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/other-cancer-specialists-agree-with-me-about-vaccine-harm-but-the-authorities-still-wont-listen

 

UK MP Andrew Bridgen has recently raised these and other serious issues in a a House of Commons debate about vaccine harms - references below:

 

https://www.andrewbridgen.com/news/list-supporting-references-used-vaccine-harms-debate-speech

 

 

Where is it accepted that only 10% of adverse events are reported?

Where do Pfizer plug your reported 1 in 800?

Per the CDC: Serious adverse events were defined as any untoward medical occurrence that resulted in death, was life-threatening, required inpatient hospitalization or prolongation of existing hospitalization, or resulted in persistent disability/incapacity. The proportions of participants who reported at least 1 serious adverse event were 0.6% in the vaccine group and 0.5% in the placebo group.

Bear in mind, Dr Angus has been embroiled in some controversies before, namely around the origin of the virus. He’s also a proponent of various things like Brexit. One could by cynical and suggest he’s trying to stay in a spotlight. The article is written as though he is some sort of martyr. 

Plus, looking rationally at his article, he claims that none of his patients had endured any extra stress. A pandemic, looming recession and the turmoil involved have been hugely stressful for many. I’d posit that his patients were part of that. Was or is anyone not stressed with the spiralling cost of living, even now?

Edit to add: If you Google for news about the Dr, most of his results are Daily Mail headlines in all caps. If that doesn’t say enough, what does?

It may be a sign of poor journalism, but it doesn’t exactly scream media suppression. 

Edited December 20, 2022 by AcousticallyChallenged

[John Wright]

14 hours ago, Thereisnt said:

 

Undoubtedly many ‘yellow card’ reports will be ‘sore arm’ or ‘I feel woozy’. Others will be blood clots, others myocarditis and some death. Given it is accepted that only 10% of adverse effects are reported the more likely numbers are millions rather hundreds of 000’s. Either way Pfizers’ own figures, which are for 'life affecting serious adverse effects' are 1 in 800. Vaccination programs have never previously been allowed to continue with adverse effects in these proportions.

 

In the article below Dr Angus Dalgleish, Prof of Oncology at St George’s University in London, talks about the enormous spike in cancer since the vaccine program - also noticed by others in his field. He says “Seeing a recurrence of these cancers.. naturally makes me wonder if there is a common cause?” And goes on to say “I then noted that some of these patients were not having a normal pattern of relapse but rather an explosive relapse.. obviously I began to wonder whether the booster vaccines could be causing these..” Increasing numbers of doctors are saying similar:

 

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/other-cancer-specialists-agree-with-me-about-vaccine-harm-but-the-authorities-still-wont-listen

 

UK MP Andrew Bridgen has recently raised these and other serious issues in a a House of Commons debate about vaccine harms - references below:

 

https://www.andrewbridgen.com/news/list-supporting-references-used-vaccine-harms-debate-speech

 

 

That piece, apart from all the critical points made by @AcousticallyChallenged has more defects that make it meaningless.

1. it’s anecdotal. No tests, no double blinds, no control group.

2. it’s not in a scientific journal - it’s not been, and never will be, peer reviewed.

3. at highest he peppers it with could, might, perhaps, maybe ( choose your thesaurus synonym of choice ). That’s not science, which is about probability.

4. even if there is a spike in blood cancer relapse amongst those who received multiple doses of Covid vaccine that’s no indication of a causal link. 
 

it’s meaningless.

[Thereisnt]

11 hours ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Where is it accepted that only 10% of adverse events are reported?

Where do Pfizer plug your reported 1 in 800?

Per the CDC: Serious adverse events were defined as any untoward medical occurrence that resulted in death, was life-threatening, required inpatient hospitalization or prolongation of existing hospitalization, or resulted in persistent disability/incapacity. The proportions of participants who reported at least 1 serious adverse event were 0.6% in the vaccine group and 0.5% in the placebo group.

Bear in mind, Dr Angus has been embroiled in some controversies before, namely around the origin of the virus. He’s also a proponent of various things like Brexit. One could by cynical and suggest he’s trying to stay in a spotlight. The article is written as though he is some sort of martyr. 

Plus, looking rationally at his article, he claims that none of his patients had endured any extra stress. A pandemic, looming recession and the turmoil involved have been hugely stressful for many. I’d posit that his patients were part of that. Was or is anyone not stressed with the spiralling cost of living, even now?

Edit to add: If you Google for news about the Dr, most of his results are Daily Mail headlines in all caps. If that doesn’t say enough, what does?

It may be a sign of poor journalism, but it doesn’t exactly scream media suppression. 

 

 

Under-reporting: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16689555

 

Further, 2 papers from the below journal have in the last 10 days said that myocarditis pre-covid was 4 per million and post covid vaccination program - amongst children between 13-18 - is now 25,000 per million:

 

https://www.medrxiv.org

 

In an interview with GB News this week Uk MP Andrew Bridgen quotes the numbers - his references in my previous post - and confirms mRNA VAERS 'adverse events' are greater than all VAER over the last 40 years!