Gladys Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, wrighty said: Far too simplistic PK, almost like the guy on R4 this morning who almost said that 1 death from covid is 1 too many, and that if anyone at all dies from it it shows the government response has been incompetent. Was it you? In any public health crisis decisions have to be made that consider the greater good as the outcome, not 'all deaths can be avoided'. On a weekly basis here I'm seeing patients who are far worse off than they would have been if we'd have not had a hospital lock down. And I'm a glorified carpenter, and the IOM position with regard to getting back to routine healthcare is far better than yours. Colleagues in other specialties, particularly in the UK, are seeing patients who are literally going to die, from cancer for example, because covid prevented them being treated in a timely fashion. My own mother could have been in that situation - back in March she was given the option of surgery (but we're worried about covid so perhaps don't!) or putting off treatment until god knows when, by which time she may have been incurable. Fortunately she had the benefit of my surgical mentality advising her to 'just cut it out' and it's all been fine. Others have not been so lucky. So there are going to be increased fatalities whatever you do. You may consider them all to be unnecessary, like the guy on R4 who thought nobody should die, ever. But it ain't that simple, and people that don't agree with you don't necessarily have 'issues' as you so snidely put it. Very good post, Wrighty, and not only are you medically qualified you are also a statistian, IIRC. I am bemused as to why the powers that be cannot see these issues. Question Time last night is worth a look and Sunetra Gupta's comments. However, I feel she is a lone voice as she felt uncomfortable when she referred to the relatively low impact if covid on the general population. Obviously, she was on the receiving end of some anti-heretics' stares preparing the bonfire for the 'witch'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: Watching the TV this morning you get the impression that the You should really use a conditional tense here - given that absolutely nobody serious ever watches TV in the morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: the doom mongers! [,,,] another few million peoples lives get destroyed in the wake. Who is the doom monger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: Whoopee you must be so pleased! It’s all coming true for the doom mongers! Hopefully another unneeded national lockdown next and you can all have a good warm glow about that as well as another few million peoples lives get destroyed in the wake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: Which are? New big Coop in Crosby. KFC waiting to be built and run. Apple Store going into Strand (iirc). Several other businesses related to the Apple Store owners group. These alone will create many jobs, not just staffing but in maintaining and cleaning. That is just the start of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Who is the doom monger? Clearly it's the person who is the proprietor of the Little Shop of Doom at Tynwald Mills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Cambon said: New big Coop in Crosby. KFC waiting to be built and run. Apple Store going into Strand (iirc). Several other businesses related to the Apple Store owners group. These alone will create many jobs, not just staffing but in maintaining and cleaning. Do you know of any non shit job opportunities that have been created? PS the Co op can’t be completed either now due to the borders being closed. So no jobs will be forthcoming until we open up again. Keep up. Edited September 18, 2020 by thesultanofsheight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, Cambon said: New big Coop in Crosby. KFC waiting to be built and run. Apple Store going into Strand (iirc). Several other businesses related to the Apple Store owners group. These alone will create many jobs, not just staffing but in maintaining and cleaning. That is just the start of it. The 2 stores in Strand street are employing total of 14 , the card factory is open so there’s 7 jobs.new co-op is not opening until borders open as announced so if you had your way never! so send the 1000 unemployed plus the latest 200 announced down there, do you work at job center? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, pongo said: You should really use a conditional tense here - given that absolutely nobody serious ever watches TV in the morning. Nobody you know that is. They’re probably all still quaking under the duvet and worriedly googling worldometers every 25 seconds so they have some up to date statistics to scare people with when they get to work. Edited September 18, 2020 by thesultanofsheight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: Got the link for that, Doc? MSN and Reuters world news this am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I’m sure the usual culprits will make snide comments but Jersey are taking into account wider issues with air links etc https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2020/09/18/more-restrictions-could-endanger-island-air-links/ Their CM in his regular conference also announced unemployment fell for 16th consecutive week, yes there’s 15 active cases from 105k tests but Zero in hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/englandandwales18september2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cambon said: There are always job losses Of course there are in the 'normal' course of economic events but......... 1 hour ago, Cambon said: there are always new job opportunities. ................in the current situation? Just where do you think they are going to come from? Are you deranged or living in an unparallel universe? Edited September 18, 2020 by Utah 01 spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Jersey and Guernsey responses to the pandemic the driver for circa £100M of property plays by institutional investors says specialist property fund manager. Edited September 18, 2020 by thesultanofsheight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, pongo said: You should really use a conditional tense here - given that absolutely nobody serious ever watches TV in the morning. Or listens to Manx Radio. (I might be wrong thread) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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