P.K. Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Neil Down said: I think that was because they realised it was you and didn't want to take another chance... You have to wonder, I do anyway, what they do if the person self-isolating gives a mobile number...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Did you read that article I linked for you yesterday? Yes, I did. The point of the i article was that if Covid was mentioned at all, not necessarily as the direct cause, it was logged as a Covid death. Most likely, in the early stages of the pandemic this was necessary to gather as much information as possible about infection and death, not to massage figures I am sure. Also, when the elderly die, if they are in the last stages of life, the doctor will give an end of life certificate to the home giving the likely direct and secondary causes of the impending death, which means that when the person passes away there is no requirement for the death to be confirmed by a doctor or a post mortem performed before the body is released to an undertaker. Wrighty may be able to confirm the actual process, but that is my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, P.K. said: You have to wonder, I do anyway, what they do if the person self-isolating gives a mobile number...? Fewer people have landlines now, so that is a risk if they just rely on checking by phone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 They issued guidance on MCCD during the Emergency. Can't get the link to work to download the pdf https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/877302/guidance-for-doctors-completing-medical-certificates-of-cause-of-death-covid-19.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjU9bOcivvrAhV16uAKHbdID9MQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw2RZeXtK5ZxvnFxvhkUa5ua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Thanks PK. The point of the article was not how deaths were certified but how they were counted in the statistics. A mention of Covid on the certificate and it was logged as a Covid death. It is only recently that deaths attributed to Covid have been given a 28 day of diagnosis limit. Also as I said above, there is no requirement for a post mortem to determine the actual cause of death in the elderly in the final stages of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) In the UK tobacco kills over 300 people a day. That’s 13 people an hour. Waiting for government to protect people from that too by putting 1/3 of the working population on the dole. Edited September 21, 2020 by thesultanofsheight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Was it 12 died today all elderly but let’s shut everything down and stop families meeting and put another 1m on the dole!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: In the UK tobacco kills over 300 people a day. That’s 13 people an hour. Waiting for government to protect people from that too by putting 1/3 of the working population on the dole. Smoking related deaths are nothing short of suicide. You can’t transmit that to other innocent folk. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: Edited September 21, 2020 by dilligaf Double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Banker said: Was it 12 died today all elderly but let’s shut everything down and stop families meeting and put another 1m on the dole!! @Banker Today Sir Patrick Vallance and CMO Chris Whitty produced the slides that those who make a point of keeping themselves properly informed were expecting. If the UK populace do not start doing things differently we are on course for having 50k new Covid cases per day by mid-October. They believe this will equate to 200 deaths per day by mid-November. But hey, you can make yourself look as stupid as you like.... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/21/uk-could-have-50000-covid-cases-a-day-by-mid-october-says-chief-medical-officer-chris-whitty 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Smoking related deaths are nothing short of suicide. You can’t transmit that to other innocent folk. Of course you can. If government is so concerned about protecting people from death it should ban cigarettes forthwith. It’s so concerned about less deaths from covid that it’s put millions of people on the dole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 hours ago, P.K. said: The day after we got back we had a call at 19:52 to make sure we were self-isolating. And that, ladies and gentlemen, was that.... My daughter had similar - a single call to make sure she understood she had to isolate and what that meant. For 99% of people that’s surely enough. I don’t think checking up on people every day is necessary. The small proportion of folk who are going to flout the rules will do so anyway. You have to trust people to do the right thing, as long as they know what that is. The problem in the UK right now is that people don’t have a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: In the UK tobacco kills over 300 people a day. That’s 13 people an hour. Waiting for government to protect people from that too by putting 1/3 of the working population on the dole. You've just plagarised that from twitter, either that or it's you all over that forum too. Is it angst or too much lager..? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Gladys said: Fewer people have landlines now, so that is a risk if they just rely on checking by phone. Surely the tech available these days can ping a mobile to within a few metres of its location? Would they go that far? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, quilp said: You've just plagarised that from twitter, either that or it's you all over that forum too. Is it angst or too much lager..? I haven’t plagiarized it from anywhere. No need to be so angry. I googled illnesses which have more deaths per population than covid to see what they were. Smoking came up. You’re starting to sound as angry and confrontational as dilli Other people have opinions too. Edited September 21, 2020 by thesultanofsheight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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