Gladys Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Annoymouse said: I wasn’t aware until recently that whilst people returning to the island are required to isolate, those that live in the same household, ie the very people who picked the returnee up from the airport/sea terminal and are spending a great deal of time with that person, are not required to isolate. Ticking time bomb right there IMO. The returnee has to isolate as far as possible from other members of the household, stay in a separate room, have their own bathroom or throughly clean after use, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gladys said: The returnee has to isolate as far as possible from other members of the household, stay in a separate room, have their own bathroom or throughly clean after use, etc. That’s only guidance and is reliant on people actually thinking about others and the possible outcomes. It doesn’t actually work, it was his missus returning from the UK and he was all to happy to spend some prolonged exposure with her and then tell everyone else about it. Eating cooked meals together, sleeping in the same bed and watching TV together, we only complained as we feel he should also isolate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 When I say complained we didn’t actually grass him up, we asked the Covid line for hypothetical information and basically if the lad tells officials they’ve isolated as much as possible, you can basically do as you please behind closed doors because no one can prove otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I heard or read somewhere that transmission within the home of those isolating was relatively low (possibly last week's govt briefing). That may be because the majority follow the guidance, or because those isolating don't have the virus. If that person had a positive test, then those actions are irresponsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 ITV news this morning reporting that Houses of Commons will not have to adhere to 10pm curfew. Presumably the same applies to all the 'private' gentlemen clubs in London as well. The Care Minister (tries to) explains the science behind the curfew in that people who spend more time in social cal drinking places tend to comply less with social distancing measures so thats why they are curbing the drinking times. As the problems in Manchester continue can't help but wonder how many students and parents wished they had stayed at home, if they had been told what was probably going to happen. The hypocrisy just keeps on rolling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Gladys said: I heard or read somewhere that transmission within the home of those isolating was relatively low (possibly last week's govt briefing). That may be because the majority follow the guidance, or because those isolating don't have the virus. If that person had a positive test, then those actions are irresponsible. That’s because the vast majority going to UK are careful and the situation is not as bad as the media portray it except amongst the younger generation. no one follows the separate isolation at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Banker said: no one follows the separate isolation at home I know someone currently doing it very carefully and conscientiously, so you’re obviously wrong. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Gladys said: I heard or read somewhere that transmission within the home of those isolating was relatively low (possibly last week's govt briefing). That may be because the majority follow the guidance, or because those isolating don't have the virus. If that person had a positive test, then those actions are irresponsible. Refusing to self-isolate when told to is now illegal in England from Monday, with fines of up to £10,000. Anyone who tests positive for Covid-19, or has been told they have been in contact with someone who has, now has a legal duty to quarantine. It comes as a study commissioned by the government found just 18% of people who had symptoms went into isolation. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54320482 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 For those who haven't seen, here's Manchester figures, they don't look great. But on the flipside, look at the second chart. Hospitalisations and deaths are not spiralling anywhere near the same levels as new cases and testing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, The Old Git said: I know someone currently doing it very carefully and conscientiously, so you’re obviously wrong. In general, no one I know had had children eat separate in own rooms and some only have one bathroom and are not going to clean after each use . one near neigbour had girlfriend sitting at edge of garden with his children running between the two of them and then going to school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 59 minutes ago, Banker said: no one follows the separate isolation at home No selfish irresponsible person does. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 If we just tested on arrival with an agreed isolation period depending on travel history then we wouldn’t need the snitching to catch people or the other stupid restrictions. Isle of Man have had 340 positive cases from 12400 tests, Jersey have had 400 from 113,000 so a % basis our positive cases are a lot higher. Also 3 months after opening borders they have had no serious cases requiring hospitalization 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Lockdowners v libertarians: Britain’s coronavirus divide As Covid cases rise, an increasingly heated debate has emerged over whether to readopt stringent measures or return to ‘the business of living’ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/27/lockdowners-v-libertarians-britain-coronavirus-divide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, P.K. said: As Covid cases rise, an increasingly heated debate has emerged over whether to readopt stringent measures or return to ‘the business of living’ The issue is about choice. All the analysis and modelling and science etc needs to be aired in public and let everyone choose the decisions they have to make for themselves. Too many decisions being made behind closed doors and then skulking away and staying quiet when it gets a bit contraversial. Hmmmm. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, P.K. said: Lockdowners v libertarians: Britain’s coronavirus divide As Covid cases rise, an increasingly heated debate has emerged over whether to readopt stringent measures or return to ‘the business of living’ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/27/lockdowners-v-libertarians-britain-coronavirus-divide Just like Manx Forums split!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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