IOM Covid removing restrictions

[Nomadic Raptor]

Well as it is a guidance I am going to have the in laws round for Sunday lunch it’s going to be lovely they will see their grandchildren and enjoy my roast potatoes.  The governments guidelines are not fit for purpose and as they say they can’t in force things in peoples homes.   
 

I know where they have been these past 9 weeks they know where we have been so as the owner of my house I am making a sensible decision.   
 

just wish those that are scared of their shadows would just think rationally for a second.  It is t something thst is going to go away it’s something we have to live with so let’s just get on with it 

[TheTeapot]

désolée

Edited May 24, 2020 by TheTeapot

[Golfer]

9 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

Well as it is a guidance I am going to have the in laws round for Sunday lunch it’s going to be lovely they will see their grandchildren and enjoy my roast potatoes.  The governments guidelines are not fit for purpose and as they say they can’t in force things in peoples homes.   
 

I know where they have been these past 9 weeks they know where we have been so as the owner of my house I am making a sensible decision.   
 

just wish those that are scared of their shadows would just think rationally for a second.  It is t something thst is going to go away it’s something we have to live with so let’s just get on with it 

My mother is sticking strictly to the rules, she says we can come into house but must wash our hands first and stay 2 meters away, we are allowed a cup of tea & biscuits but can only stay for 25/30 minutes which is still a stretch on guidelines!,

[Donald Trumps]

15 hours ago, pongo said:

Isle of Man people are British citizens. They are British. Just as much as Yorkshire or Cornwall people.

Though many would argue that Yorkshire should be a separate country.

We're presently subjects of the Crown with limited rights in the UK, & none in Europe

If the UK ever rejoins EFTA then we should seek to do so too in our own right

Edited May 24, 2020 by Donald Trumps

[Nomadic Raptor]

9 minutes ago, Golfer said:

My mother is sticking strictly to the rules, she says we can come into house but must wash our hands first and stay 2 meters away, we are allowed a cup of tea & biscuits but can only stay for 25/30 minutes which is still a stretch on guidelines!,

Everyone is free to live how they choose to.  For me that is a little extreme but she will have her reasons and that is her choice.

[Gladys]

2 hours ago, Southfork said:

The problem is we are well into the realms of completely pointless unenforceable rules now so that governments can still pretend that they are doing something to protect us because they have scared so many idiots into mass hysteria about dying if they even dare to move outside of their houses that they can’t just say “get on with it”. What gets me is that someone can work in a salon for 8 hours a day and that’s fine. But a customer can’t spend more than 15 minutes there. It’s completely pointless. 

I agree with your first point, IOMG did the right thing at first, IMHO.  Problem is that in order to achieve compliance they did too good a job!  I am all for passing responsibility back to the populace now, with one proviso that the vulnerable should be protected, particularly if they are unable to protect themselves. 

Is the guidance that as a client you can't be in a hairdresser's for longer than 15 minutes?  It is going to take a team of highly trained specialists hours to sort my thatch out!

[Gladys]

1 hour ago, John Wright said:

The UK is their colony. They conquered England in 1066.

It's time to let it go now, John. 

[Donald Trumps]

15 minutes ago, Gladys said:

It's time to let it go now, John. 

He's right - England was acquired by the Normans and forms of their language are still used in Westminister parliament procedures

[Gladys]

20 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

He's right - England was acquired by the Normans and forms of their language are still used in Westminister parliament procedures

I would ease off on the hydroxychloroquine, Donald, it is affecting your sense of humour. 

[Donald Trumps]

Great investment - making me loads of $$$$

[hissingsid]

I think everyone is relaxing a bit now it is up to the individual to take responsibility for their actions and make their own choices.

[Black Mirror]

On 5/23/2020 at 6:34 PM, Donald Trumps said:

Folks in Guernsey & Jersey associate themselves with the UK much more closely than we do I think

In regard to the whole thread of how close we are to the UK. I think you are confusing Britishness with issues of political identity. When you say “UK” or “Westminster” you mean the political entity that is managing England and, within the framework of devolution, the other parts of the British Isles that we call United Kingdom. This isle has a different political identity, and so do Scotland and Northern Ireland frankly. We are all British though, the cultural references are all the same.

As concerns the response to Covid-19, the Isle of Man has positioned itself in respect to the UK with a slightly more liberal form of lockdown adapted to the realities of the island. It has done so for two main reasons: firstly, or own health care system is piggybacked on the NHS and thus there is a resource constrain; secondly, it was the most politically convenient course of action, the abuse thrown at lockdown sceptics on this website clearly making the point of that.
 

[Manximus Aururaneus]

On 5/24/2020 at 1:34 PM, Donald Trumps said:

He's right - England was acquired by the Normans and forms of their language are still used in Westminister parliament procedures

Defeated or not, at least the English had the good sense to make the most of Norman ingenuity - it took the Manxies almost 1,000 years before they finally acknowledged the fact by opening a bar in honour of Norman Wisdom!

[Roger Mexico]

12 minutes ago, Black Mirror said:

In regard to the whole thread of how close we are to the UK. I think you are confusing Britishness with issues of political identity. When you say “UK” or “Westminster” you mean the political entity that is managing England and, within the framework of devolution, the other parts of the British Isles that we call United Kingdom. This isle has a different political identity, and so do Scotland and Northern Ireland frankly. We are all British though, the cultural references are all the same.

But people do see themselves differently and that is what makes national identity important to people and how it differs across the British Isles.  Cultural references are not all the same - not only do England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have ones that differ from each other (often quite extensively), they differ internally as well with regional and other factors.

But even when cultural references are shared, they don't imply anything more than that.  Just because we may get references to US culture it doesn't make us American.

People are perfectly entitled to decide just how British they are or not and what that Britishness means to them.   Saying "You are British and that is defined by whatever the London Press dictates this week", is not going to work.

[gettafa]

Ashy loves promoting his continued use of the phrase "baby steps". I know what he is trying to say of course, yes baby steps are indeed small although they are also stumbling and uncertain, more often than not, ending up with a bit of a tumble etc