P.K. Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Banker said: This what you said Bearing in mind 20% of the population are over 65 I wouldn't be too sure of that minority if I were you. Pointing out that 20% is a minority and 80% is a majority who should be taken into account more than the minority who are undoubtedly getting nice pensions and don’t care about unemployed How do you know they don't care about the unemployed? Or rather how can you know? You don't know. You have absolutely no idea. You're just very selfishly trying to make the most vulnerable in our society appear inconsequential.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: You really are a persistently angry individual. How long do you think you can keep these rages up for before you pop a main artery in your neck? Rages. You funny. Keep that imagination rolling. After all we all need a laugh.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, P.K. said: Is she? Bearing in mind 20% of the population are over 65 I wouldn't be too sure of that minority if I were you. In any event, that 20% of the population have as much right to a decent life as you have.... Do they? I'm in the majority. The 80 plus percent. Also, the "vunerable" aged people that I know largely don't want special arrangements made to impact everyone. My mum is a pensioner and working. She doesn't want to be told she can't go here, can't go there, stay locked up etc. She's been the opposite. It's more common than you might think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, P.K. said: How do you know they don't care about the unemployed? Or rather how can you know? You don't know. You have absolutely no idea. You're just very selfishly trying to make the most vulnerable in our society appear inconsequential.... Calm down Karen, you’re going to have a heart attack with all this ranting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: In amongst the petty bickering refreshing to see Grant Shapps looking to set up U.K. airport testing in an effort to get planes back in the sky & people moving again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54452397 I’m sure we’ll consider it in 2030, it’s what the people would want. Hard to believe that they let infected people just fly into the country and then go on their merry way up until May was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Banker said: Calm down Karen, you’re going to have a heart attack with all this ranting Really? 7 minutes ago, P.K. said: Rages. You funny. Keep that imagination rolling. After all we all need a laugh.... 7 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: Do they? I'm in the majority. The 80 plus percent. Also, the "vunerable" aged people that I know largely don't want special arrangements made to impact everyone. My mum is a pensioner and working. She doesn't want to be told she can't go here, can't go there, stay locked up etc. She's been the opposite. It's more common than you might think. Old folks are awkward, no doubt about it, caring for them is a nightmare. Been there, done that, got the scar tissue. But you have to be alive to be awkward. It's absolutely disgusting that some on here think the most vulnerable in our society can be just brushed under the carpet and then forgotten about. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, P.K. said: It's absolutely disgusting that some on here think the most vulnerable in our society can be just brushed under the carpet and then forgotten about. And yet from what I’ve read I haven’t seen anyone actually say that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, P.K. said: Really? Old folks are awkward, no doubt about it, caring for them is a nightmare. Been there, done that, got the scar tissue. But you have to be alive to be awkward. It's absolutely disgusting that some on here think the most vulnerable in our society can be just brushed under the carpet and then forgotten about. So when coronavirus comes back to the Island, with the options (broadly) being: A) Lock down the vulnerable B) Lock down everyone C) Do nothing How is A worse for the mental health of the vulnerable than B? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, HeliX said: So when coronavirus comes back to the Island, with the options (broadly) being: A) Lock down the vulnerable B) Lock down everyone C) Do nothing How is A worse for the mental health of the vulnerable than B? If it comes back then I would hope everyone will pull together to protect our society. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, P.K. said: If it comes back then I would hope everyone will pull together to protect our society. So, B then? Which is worse economically and no worse mentally than A for the vulnerable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, HeliX said: So, B then? Which is worse economically and no worse mentally than A for the vulnerable? He never answers questions just rages, obviously A is better for all as can deliver shopping etc for vulnerable as before and shops can stay open 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, HeliX said: So, B then? Which is worse economically and no worse mentally than A for the vulnerable? Did I say 'B' then? No I didn't. Don't bother trying to force your options on people so you can then challenge their choices. I'm simply not interested in playing your games... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, P.K. said: Really? Old folks are awkward, no doubt about it, caring for them is a nightmare. Been there, done that, got the scar tissue. But you have to be alive to be awkward. It's absolutely disgusting that some on here think the most vulnerable in our society can be just brushed under the carpet and then forgotten about. I genuinely don't recall saying that or anyone else saying it. Happy to be corrected. No one here is suggesting that the vulnerable be brushed under any carpet. It's simply common sense that if you have a relatively small segment of society at risk you simply don't take actions that impinge on everyone. I see more big companies announcing closures today including some parts never to reopen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, Banker said: He never answers questions just rages, obviously A is better for all as can deliver shopping etc for vulnerable as before and shops can stay open Why not try to play the "drinking" card so beloved by some on here? Like your imaginary "rages" it won't actually get you anywhere but at least you would have tried... The puerile way they try to diss people is just pathetic... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 53 minutes ago, HeliX said: So when coronavirus comes back to the Island, with the options (broadly) being: A) Lock down the vulnerable B) Lock down everyone C) Do nothing How is A worse for the mental health of the vulnerable than B? of course there is option D. Lock down no one but issue guidance and ask those in that venerable category to moderate their lifestyles for a little while if they feel it best to do so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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