Neil Down Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cambon said: Why should there be medical evidence, when all the evidence you need is 17,500 new cases in one day, mainly in the North of England. Removing the seven day test is a deterrent. As I have said before, the last thing Iom needs is Covid in the community and another lock down. Iom cannot afford it. Howie has done the correct thing. Well done gov.im. Couldn't agree more. As a small business owner, another lockdown could result in up to 6 staff no longer having jobs. Not a fan of Stan but he's got it right this time 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cambon said: Why should there be medical evidence, when all the evidence you need is 17,500 new cases in one day, mainly in the North of England. Removing the seven day test is a deterrent. As I have said before, the last thing Iom needs is Covid in the community and another lock down. Iom cannot afford it. Howie has done the correct thing. Well done gov.im. Howie is a fool, no testing equals no cases ffs. Anyone coming back now won’t bother getting tested unless symptoms really bad and those sharing the house will still go to work etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Cambon said: Why should there be medical evidence, when all the evidence you need is 17,500 new cases in one day, mainly in the North of England. Removing the seven day test is a deterrent. As I have said before, the last thing Iom needs is Covid in the community and another lock down. Iom cannot afford it. Howie has done the correct thing. Well done gov.im. Is this really about deterrent though? If HQ had presented volumes of traffic pre 7 day testing and post 7 day testinf being available then there would be some context to a decision. The reality here is that this is simply about testing less people. You test less people then you get less positive tests back. That's not a great strategy really. It's fudging the books to make it look like we are covid free. Who's being deterred then? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Banker said: Howie is a fool, no testing equals no cases ffs. Anyone coming back now won’t bother getting tested unless symptoms really bad and those sharing the house will still go to work etc He isn’t a fool by any means. But still no mention of our “key workers” testing. So will they now be required to do 14 days before they work on our important infrastructure like digging holes in the prom or welding rails or doing important health and safety training? Or has the choice to test just been removed from us plebs again on the basis that by default we’re treated like idiots when key workers can basically do what the fuck they like. Edited October 9, 2020 by thesultanofsheight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: He isn’t a fool by any means. But still no mention of our “key workers” testing. So will they now be required to do 14 days before they work on our important infrastructure like digging holes in the prom or welding rails? Or has the choice to test just been removed from us plebs again on the basis that by default we’re treated like idiots when key workers can basically do what the fuck they like. Bill Shimmins has a number of questions on key workers next week, expect several supplemental questions on why testing suspended & evidence especially as head of testing disagrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 What i would say is that comin are caught between a rock and a hard place on testing. I can only imagine how utterly ridiculous the inbox is with every additional covid case. With paranoid people demanding lock downs and border closures. Or asking is it safe to go to the UK etc. By testing less and having less public results driven paranoid reactions it's just the lesser of the evils to comin I expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I can only imagine how utterly ridiculous the inbox is with every additional covid case. With paranoid people demanding lock downs and border closures. Or asking is it safe to go to the UK etc. Most of the inbox will be from ND,PK & Cambon 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Banker said: Basically no medical evidence behind decision to remove 7 days testing other than to make Howie look good by Havers no cases. Here’s his comment The chief minister says it will 'improve the number of coronavirus cases on the Isle of Man'. It won't, it will improve the number of positive tests. Edited October 9, 2020 by Gladys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, Gladys said: It won't, it will improve the number of positive tests. Presumably it has the potential to reduce the number of people actually travelling. Since there will now be no question but that isolation is for 14 days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, pongo said: Presumably it has the potential to reduce the number of people actually travelling. Since there will now be no question but that isolation is for 14 days. That comment would have some standing if Howard had presented statistics that showed the impact on passenger volumes since the introduction of the 7 day test. He didn't. There's a reason for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Spot on Pongo this is probably the main reason for the change in rules. Good decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Banker said: Howie is a fool, no testing equals no cases ffs. Anyone coming back now won’t bother getting tested unless symptoms really bad and those sharing the house will still go to work etc if you want to see a real fool, look in a mirror. the few on here that don't want to adhere to the rules don't stand to lose much. Nearly 500 pages of waffle and you still haven't brought anything convincing to the table 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, hissingsid said: Spot on Pongo this is probably the main reason for the change in rules. Good decision. It isn't the reason though Sid. The reason is simply to test less people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Banker said: Bill Shimmins has a number of questions on key workers next week, expect several supplemental questions on why testing suspended & evidence especially as head of testing disagrees The question paper isn't published yet? You have some good insight there Bill Banker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, piebaps said: The question paper isn't published yet? You have some good insight there Bill Banker I think you will find it is, check Tynwald org 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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