pongo Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, Max Power said: I hate to say it but I had a horrible feeling that this would bite King Howard in the ass... http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=58577&headline=Travel boss's concerns over air bridge§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2020 Would it not be possible to require those coming here, or returning here, from Guernsey to self isolate? The same as if they were coming / returning from the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, Max Power said: I hate to say it but I had a horrible feeling that this would bite King Howard in the ass... http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=58577&headline=Travel boss's concerns over air bridge§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2020 Well. Let’s hope Howie doesn’t take his expert epidemiological advice from travel agents. First, the prevalence is about 5 per 100,000, 1 per 20,000. Way below levels at which all our border controls would have been dismantled. Second, the detected live cases aren’t out in the community any more. They’re self isolating. Third, GSY has an efficient working track & trace. Yes, there’s a risk, but I’d never had you down as a Karen, Max. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, pongo said: Would it not be possible to require those coming here, or returning here, from Guernsey to self isolate? The same as if they were coming / returning from the UK? On what medical or epidemiological basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, John Wright said: On what medical or epidemiological basis? Karen basis John. This being of course more compelling than medical and epidemi-wotsit Edited October 22, 2020 by piebaps poor smelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, John Wright said: I’d never had you down as a Karen, Max. I would never have had you down as the sort of person who would call someone a Karen in this context John. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, John Wright said: Well. Let’s hope Howie doesn’t take his expert epidemiological advice from travel agents. First, the prevalence is about 5 per 100,000, 1 per 20,000. Way below levels at which all our border controls would have been dismantled. Second, the detected live cases aren’t out in the community any more. They’re self isolating. Third, GSY has an efficient working track & trace. Yes, there’s a risk, but I’d never had you down as a Karen, Max. Not really a Karen John, I think I meant more that no matter what you do, something will end up going wrong in these circumstances and people will be quick to condemn you. I should have worded it better but I did somehow think that if we have a lot of locals there when the balloon goes up, either way, it would lead to panic and distress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Max Power said: Not really a Karen John, I think I meant more that no matter what you do, something will end up going wrong in these circumstances and people will be quick to condemn you. I should have worded it better but I did somehow think that if we have a lot of locals there when the balloon goes up, either way, it would lead to panic and distress To be fair people would need to get a grip really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, Max Power said: Not really a Karen John, I think I meant more that no matter what you do, something will end up going wrong in these circumstances and people will be quick to condemn you. I should have worded it better but I did somehow think that if we have a lot of locals there when the balloon goes up, either way, it would lead to panic and distress That’s almost the opposite of what you posted. How big are the planes. How many are coming from or going to Guernsey ( and returning ) over the half term break. I think it’s 5 return flights. 350 people each way. We have to be rational. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54648684 Slight deviation I know but this is the most comprehensive explanation of the virus itself I can understand - Master of deception paragraph makes a lot of sense about how people are behaving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I'll tell you what, hasn't this thread quietened down a lot! I'm not one for stifling debate, but what we had wasn't debate. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Agreed. As with most people, I want the borders back to normal, not just here but world wide. The only way out of this is herd immunity (whether by spreading or vaccine). However, just letting it run rampant as sultan wants, will swamp health services and many people will die. Not of Covid but heart attacks, strokes, and the many other issues that require hospitalisation. Slow and steady spread of the virus, as we have now, is the way to go. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 If of course that any evidence emerges that "herd immunity" is actually a thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, piebaps said: If of course that any evidence emerges that "herd immunity" is actually a thing. Sorry, what? You don't 'believe' in herd immunity? The thing with science is, that it doesn't really care about your beliefs, it relies upon facts and evidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Guernsey flights suspended then. Wonder what it means for those who went the other day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) Dr Allinson MHK just said that our children didn't ask for this pandemic. Which is actually true. But when I was at school I was praying for something like this every single day Edited October 23, 2020 by Barlow 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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