John Wright Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, Josem said: You can view the number of tests conducted here: https://covid19.gov.im/about-coronavirus/open-data-downloads/ The on island testing facility has a capacity of up to 200* tests per day, and was opened on 20 April. Since that opening, it has been running at around 28% of its advertised capacity. On only two days since opening has the facility even used more than half of its claimed capacity. That's what I mean by "testing at such a low rate". We don't know how many people have the disease on the island without symptoms. We do not know because the on-island testing facility has been used at such a low rate. *one IOM Today article reported it could expand to 400/day if needed You’re avoiding the point you made. The level of testing per head is well above average. Antigen testing is pointless apart from key workers, vulnerable and those with triaged symptoms. Whats important is the forthcoming antibody testing to see what percentage population has been affected. Antigen testing tells you little apart from X was infected ( or not ) on date Y. Yes it allows you to trace after a positive. We have a tracing team. You really need to grow a pair and meet up with wrighty rather than posting drivel on here. If you are a serious politician your attitude here is doing you, and your party no favours. You're in “tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing” territory. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, Josem said: You can view the number of tests conducted here: https://covid19.gov.im/about-coronavirus/open-data-downloads/ The on island testing facility has a capacity of up to 200* tests per day, and was opened on 20 April. Since that opening, it has been running at around 28% of its advertised capacity. On only two days since opening has the facility even used more than half of its claimed capacity. That's what I mean by "testing at such a low rate". We don't know how many people have the disease on the island without symptoms. We do not know because the on-island testing facility has been used at such a low rate. *one IOM Today article reported it could expand to 400/day if needed We do know. The answer is none because if you had a load of asymptomatic people that would have manifested itself via transmission. 18 days withoutna case tells you all you need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: We do know. The answer is none because if you had a load of asymptomatic people that would have manifested itself via transmission. 18 days withoutna case tells you all you need to know. TWENTY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josem Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, John Wright said: You’re avoiding the point you made. No, I'm not. I said, and you quoted me as saying, "However, because the IOM Government has been testing at such a low rate..." You interpreted as my statement being a low rate of testing relative to other nations. I meant my statement as a low rate of testing relative to the claimed capacity. I understand and recognise that on this occasion, the bit I quoted could have been interpreted in the way that you interpreted it. Consequently, I've clarified it. 33 minutes ago, John Wright said: The level of testing per head is well above average. That's probably true compared to other nations. I'm not sure how the current rate of testing on the Isle of Man compares to the current rate of testing elsewhere. Because I don't know that, I haven't made any such claims. 33 minutes ago, John Wright said: You really need to... meet up with wrighty.... Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josem Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: We do know. The answer is none because if you had a load of asymptomatic people that would have manifested itself via transmission. 18 days withoutna case tells you all you need to know. I admire your confidence, although I don't share it. Of course, if you were right that there is no coronavirus on the island, there would be little reason to retain any physical distancing rules. I guess you should take your disagreement up with the Government, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 If there's apparently no viral infection in the community & there's a sophisticated testing procedure underway, then the CMs surely over doing things with his heavy constraints on pub/bar trading particularly? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said: If there's apparently no viral infection in the community & there's a sophisticated testing procedure underway, then the CMs surely over doing things with his heavy constraints on pub/bar trading particularly? He is , he keeps referring to NZ model but doesn't want to adopt what they've done in reopening everything! Manx solutions etc! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said: If there's apparently no viral infection in the community & there's a sophisticated testing procedure underway, then the CMs surely over doing things with his heavy constraints on pub/bar trading particularly? Easier to let things open slowly and in a controlled fashion than wing it and possibly have to restrict again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, HeliX said: Easier to let things open slowly and in a controlled fashion than wing it and possibly have to restrict again. Well after today's mass event they may as well throw the corona regulations away and just reopen everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, Amadeus said: Well after today's mass event they may as well throw the corona regulations away and just reopen everything. The one that was outdoors and well distanced? Seems a bit of an overreaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Josem said: I admire your confidence, although I don't share it. Of course, if you were right that there is no coronavirus on the island, there would be little reason to retain any physical distancing rules. I guess you should take your disagreement up with the Government, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Amadeus said: Well after today's mass event they may as well throw the corona regulations away and just reopen everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Josem said: I admire your confidence, although I don't share it. Of course, if you were right that there is no coronavirus on the island, there would be little reason to retain any physical distancing rules. I guess you should take your disagreement up with the Government, then. Well I would but they're not interested in applying logic and common sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Josem said: No, I'm not. I said, and you quoted me as saying, "However, because the IOM Government has been testing at such a low rate..." You interpreted as my statement being a low rate of testing relative to other nations. I meant my statement as a low rate of testing relative to the claimed capacity. I understand and recognise that on this occasion, the bit I quoted could have been interpreted in the way that you interpreted it. Consequently, I've clarified it. That's probably true compared to other nations. I'm not sure how the current rate of testing on the Isle of Man compares to the current rate of testing elsewhere. Because I don't know that, I haven't made any such claims. Why? You need to go on an English comprehension course. ive interpreted what you wrote correctly. You used rate. If you had meant what you now claim you have used words such as “ because IOMG had conducted so few tests. Ah politicians rewriting history, even if only 2 hours old. As for wrighty you made some extraordinary claims, for some time, that make it clear you don’t understand the modelling or the statistics or probability. He’s offered to enlighten you. You might benefit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, HeliX said: The one that was outdoors and well distanced? Seems a bit of an overreaction. Not at all, or do you really think that Social Distancing works in a crowd like that, with people cheering, clapping, etc? It did get bunched up at times as well, especially towards the end and when people left. If they allow an event that is clearly in breach of current regulations because "BLM > COVID-19" then get rid of the regulations completely and re-open the economy. Things can't be as bad as they say, or they would have never allowed this to go ahead, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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