Banker Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, monasqueen said: I've read that New Delhi is on its third spike. That does not bode well for the rest of us. Well their population is a lot more crammed into accommodation and workplaces than most of Europe & UK so unfortunately they will suffer higher cases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, monasqueen said: I've read that New Delhi is on its third spike. That does not bode well for the rest of us. Spanish flu had four spikes in Europe. The second was the biggest. First and third similar, fourth small and isolated by comparison. Everything to do with Covid 19 is showing a similar path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cambon said: Spanish flu had four spikes in Europe. The second was the biggest. First and third similar, fourth small and isolated by comparison. Everything to do with Covid 19 is showing a similar path. We didn’t have drugs when Spanish flu hit and if you think we will have c20m deaths from COVID you are believing some weird theories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Banker said: We didn’t have drugs when Spanish flu hit and if you think we will have c20m deaths from COVID you are believing some weird theories I’m not sure where they would have bought hand sanitizer or disposable masks in 1918 either. But at least bog roll hadn’t been invented so they wouldn’t have to stockpile that! That said I’m guessing disease is going to transmit very effectively around a population that couldn’t even wipe their own arses properly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 8,000 fans at the spartak moscow Atletico madrid game this evening. Sounded like 80,000. Quite encouraging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 40 minutes ago, Banker said: We didn’t have drugs when Spanish flu hit and if you think we will have c20m deaths from COVID you are believing some weird theories Number of deaths is irrelevant. What I am saying is the second spike will be much worse than the first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetchtyke Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I've been told that applications for Manx student funding was 2/3 of normal. Students have been coming back in dribs and drabs for weeks now as universities pretty much go online only. I expect that to pick up with the lockdown starting in England this week. The risk with students is them coming over and transmitting it through the household. I'm surprised CoMin haven't brought in full-household isolation. I suspect they night. I'd love to see them all come back in the next couple of weeks, get the 2 weeks quarantine done, and then they can enjoy Christmas. And, to be fair, the government through Dr Allinson have been hinting at that being the best thing to do for weeks now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, tetchtyke said: I've been told that applications for Manx student funding was 2/3 of normal. Students have been coming back in dribs and drabs for weeks now as universities pretty much go online only. I expect that to pick up with the lockdown starting in England this week. The risk with students is them coming over and transmitting it through the household. I'm surprised CoMin haven't brought in full-household isolation. I suspect they night. I'd love to see them all come back in the next couple of weeks, get the 2 weeks quarantine done, and then they can enjoy Christmas. And, to be fair, the government through Dr Allinson have been hinting at that being the best thing to do for weeks now. I suspect we'll be in lockdown ourselves before Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Cambon said: Number of deaths is irrelevant. What I am saying is the second spike will be much worse than the first. You should be advising Howie & Ashie or perhaps you are which is why they come out with crap!😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said: I’m not sure where they would have bought hand sanitizer or disposable masks in 1918 either. But at least bog roll hadn’t been invented so they wouldn’t have to stockpile that! That said I’m guessing disease is going to transmit very effectively around a population that couldn’t even wipe their own arses properly! Toilet roll was patented in 1883, toilet paper mass produced in the 14th century and the Chinese used it in the 6th century. Interesting what you can glean from these threads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetchtyke Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, finlo said: I suspect we'll be in lockdown ourselves before Christmas! I hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised either. I hope England's lockdown means that nobody goes there, and the quarantine rules hold up as a result. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, Max Power said: Toilet roll was patented in 1883, toilet paper mass produced in the 14th century and the Chinese used it in the 6th century. Interesting what you can glean from these threads Great research. Hygiene was still a lot worse back then and most of them would probably have been shite-arses as well as malnourished by today’s standard which would have had a significant impact on mortality I’d guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 hours ago, finlo said: I suspect we'll be in lockdown ourselves before Christmas! probably, with all the students heading home to freedom some are bound to test positive and give our dictators an excuse to lock us all up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 This might have been mentioned already and I missed it. Chamber of Commerce pushing for border testing. The vocal majority on FB who want everything locked down are clearly from two or three certain demographics. None of which are likely to make them members of the CoC. Those who are, and who understand the bigger picture, won’t want to be speaking out on a public platform like FB and opening themselves up to a load of abuse. https://www.change.org/p/isle-of-man-government-introduce-covid-19-testing-at-iom-port-and-airport-to-allow-our-loved-ones-to-come-home/u/28002386?cs_tk=Avjw-h0o3v7nPDKMpV8AAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvHoTzQ_SSKJyfe1O-YoQBB4%3D&utm_campaign=da8af04ef9404c719747fab839c7b695&utm_content=initial_v0_4_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, trmpton said: This might have been mentioned already and I missed it. Chamber of Commerce pushing for border testing. The vocal majority on FB who want everything locked down are clearly from two or three certain demographics. None of which are likely to make them members of the CoC. Those who are, and who understand the bigger picture, won’t want to be speaking out on a public platform like FB and opening themselves up to a load of abuse. https://www.change.org/p/isle-of-man-government-introduce-covid-19-testing-at-iom-port-and-airport-to-allow-our-loved-ones-to-come-home/u/28002386?cs_tk=Avjw-h0o3v7nPDKMpV8AAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvHoTzQ_SSKJyfe1O-YoQBB4%3D&utm_campaign=da8af04ef9404c719747fab839c7b695&utm_content=initial_v0_4_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs What will testing at the border achieve? It might catch a small % but it won't achieve what a 14 day isolation period will, other than create a load of stats and headlines. I'm all for allowing family members and business people from off island to come over as long as they isolate to keep things ticking over but testing someone at the border doesn't achieve anything of note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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