NoTailT Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, TheTeapot said: I have purposefully not tuned in today. Any letters read out saying how great they are? No but I cringed like hell when Ashford went 'I hope the Chief Minister won't beat me up later' and squirmed back at Howard. These two... my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, TheTeapot said: I have purposefully not tuned in today. Any letters read out saying how great they are? Not today 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 EasyJet must have been listening to Howie, just got 2 emails canceling flights for January!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 49 minutes ago, Banker said: He has been losing the plot for a while! Why does he insist on giving the worldwide news on US election, Brexit , Scotland etc etc? Perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Anyone else hear him say that he hopes at some point to be able to relax restrictions to allow “friends and family, who have Manx Passports”!!! Got to be having a laugh surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 hours ago, paswt said: If , as someone claimed , key workers on the prom wear a mask and a different coloured hat then the chap with the Stop/ Go lollypop on the prom this morning was one . Just saying He just operates the go one. Latvian specialist been brought in to speed the job up a bit. Think Red Adair but for road signs. I believe a manx fella turns it back to stop. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, trmpton said: Anyone else hear him say that he hopes at some point to be able to relax restrictions to allow “friends and family, who have Manx Passports”!!! Got to be having a laugh surely That really is taking the piss. I’m getting sick and tired of total mental cases driving the agenda here now. I can see some Manx people handing back their Manx passports at this rate. What did the land of your birth do for you in the covid crisis of 2020 fellow Manxie ....... absolutely fuck all but told me and my unclean body and ways to stay the fuck away from my family and friends like a fucking leper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, trmpton said: So you are completely adverse to any risk associated with the virus coming in, regardless of the impact on businesses and mental health and believe we should aim to keep the virus out completely? Despite the fact we know it got into the community in Guernsey and caused no issues at all, because of testing. You don’t see any merit at all to the ways that Denmark, San Marino etc have handled things with a balance of risk against reward? Really not sure that’s a long term and viable proposition to be honest. I want to minimise risk from the virus and yes we should try to keep it out completely if we can. I think the impact on business and mental health would be far worse if we have another outbreak than anything that will be lost by having effective restrictions. And most of the pleas about mental health seem to boil down to "I will be upset if I don't get my way". As @doc.fixit reminded us, those who are vulnerable will be in much worse distress if they are threatened by a deadly disease and the indifference of those who want to put them at risk. I'm not sure that "We must be more like the country with the worst death rate in the world!" is a big selling point for most people and cases in San Marino are rocketing again: I doubt the tourists are flocking there either. As far as Denmark goes, they seem to have very similar restrictions on entering the country as, say, Guernsey. Where I wouldn't say that the recent cluster caused no issues at all (the problem was that the index case had not been off-Island) and in the first few days it did look quite worrying. They used testing and tracing to nip it in the bud and it looks like they were lucky and have done so, but it wasn't guaranteed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, thesultanofsheight said: I’m getting sick and tired of total mental cases driving the agenda here now. Cant fault you. Every man has his limits. I'm amazed you've remained this level headed and tolerant up to this point in proceedings. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, trmpton said: Anyone else hear him say that he hopes at some point to be able to relax restrictions to allow “friends and family, who have Manx Passports”!!! Got to be having a laugh surely He was asked questions and said he didn’t know but if cases came down during uk lockdown he would kindly consider it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I want to minimise risk from the virus and yes we should try to keep it out completely if we can. I think the impact on business and mental health would be far worse if we have another outbreak than anything that will be lost by having effective restrictions. And most of the pleas about mental health seem to boil down to "I will be upset if I don't get my way". As @doc.fixit reminded us, those who are vulnerable will be in much worse distress if they are threatened by a deadly disease and the indifference of those who want to put them at risk. I'm not sure that "We must be more like the country with the worst death rate in the world!" is a big selling point for most people and cases in San Marino are rocketing again: I doubt the tourists are flocking there either. As far as Denmark goes, they seem to have very similar restrictions on entering the country as, say, Guernsey. Where I wouldn't say that the recent cluster caused no issues at all (the problem was that the index case had not been off-Island) and in the first few days it did look quite worrying. They used testing and tracing to nip it in the bud and it looks like they were lucky and have done so, but it wasn't guaranteed. Just stop it, please. Jersey have proved in recent months there is a way. They’ve rightly tightened up recently given the second wave caused by 2.4 million students returning to city centres at the start of September but they’ll relax as soon as possible being the pro-active jurisdiction that they are. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: Just stop it, please. Jersey have proved in recent months there is a way. They’ve rightly tightened up recently given the second wave caused by 2.4 million students returning to city centres at the start of September but they’ll relax as soon as possible being the pro-active jurisdiction that they are. I hate to break your heart, but I'm not going to stop pointing out facts. Jersey are clearly developing a community outbreak at the moment and with 97 active cases. it's inevitable that some of them will eventually end up in hospital. Some of those people will be isolating after arrival but the number identified from other sources is rising. Six weeks ago some of us pointed to the rising figures for cases in the UK and were loftily assured that it was alright as the hospital numbers were less than 500 and deaths barely in double figures. Now there are over 10,000 in hospitals with Covid and 492 died yesterday. One thing predicts the other and Jersey's testing regime looks like it has failed - though they have now tightened it up. Edited November 5, 2020 by Roger Mexico Add link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I hate to break your heart, but I'm not going to stop pointing out facts. Jersey are clearly developing a community outbreak at the moment and with 97 active cases. it's inevitable that some of them will eventually end up in hospital. Some of those people will be isolating after arrival but the number identified from other sources is rising. Six weeks ago some of us pointed to the rising figures for cases in the UK and were loftily assured that it was alright as the hospital numbers were less than 500 and deaths barely in double figures. Now there are over 10,000 in hospitals with Covid and 492 died yesterday. One thing predicts the other and Jersey's testing regime looks like it has failed - though they have now tightened it up. Here is a breakdown of when the 492 people who “died” yesterday (or who more accurately whose deaths were announced yesterday as COVID deaths) actually died. ”maybe” some of those were held back to justify a lockdown, when other statistics are actually showing day to day deaths level off a few days ago. Imagine how cool it would look if there was a peak the day before new restrictions and then a sudden decrease or levelling off? 30-Mar :1 21-Oct :1 22-Oct :1 23-Oct: 3 24-Oct: 3 24-Oct: 3 25-Oct: 3 26-Oct: 3 27-Oct: 4 28-Oct: 7 29-Oct: 12 30-Oct: 18 31-Oct: 38 01-Nov: 52 02-Nov: 122 03-Nov: 34 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Do the 397 from the day before too, see if you can work out why that argument is a little silly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Do the 397 from the day before too, see if you can work out why that argument is a little silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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